Fan incident during Oldham game

[malg]

If the person arrested didn't racially abuse this young footballer, then this young footballer should be big enough to apologise. If he was racially abused by this young man in the KOP then the supporter needs to be banned from Liverpool matches for a minimum of ten years.

[Kenneth]

I feel very uncomfortable commenting on his reaction, but....he has a right to be upset, he then turns round to face the Kop. An intimidating sight and it may have felt to him as though it was him v however many thousand the Kop holds these days. He's young and inexperienced and the Kop were singing the Suarez song. He probably took that the wrong way (as the chant was well underway before the incident began)...felt overwhelmed and vulnerable, worked himself into a bit of a frenzy and it was too much for him.

Pure supposition but still.

Possibly, but still... He's not 16, he's 20 years old and he starts crying in front of 45000 people because someone shouted something nasty. Just weird. I know the arguments but I can't help thinking he is lacking in the nuts department.

[Nicey]

If true I hear people advocating a life ban. How is it that fans are treated harsher than players? A years ban, a public apology and being sent on a racial awareness course would do far better.

You make a great point

[Shaggy]

Digger

http://news.sky.com/home/video/health/video/16144726

[sean_lfc]

Aye, complete ****ing class by Barnes, absolute class, one of the first ones to come out and actually look at the symptoms of this racism malarky and looking at the bigger picture! And he does it in such a way as if it were (and should be) glaringly obvious! Class act!

[souliv]

"If the person arrested didn't racially abuse this young footballer, then this young footballer should be big enough to apologise. If he was racially abused by this young man in the KOP then the supporter needs to be banned from Liverpool matches for a minimum of ten years."

If he racially abused the player then it has to be a life ban

[wavydavy]

Just to satisfy my own curiosity. How on earth do you ban someone from a football ground(s)? How do you physically do it?

[Craig_H]

What irks me, is that the press and media have all come out, before anyone was even arrested, let alone charged or tried, and decided he was guilty.

If it turns out that he wasnt, or the police decide there's no case to answer, will the press provide an apology, in the same way they've been hounding Suarez to apologise?

Or will they just forget it and move onto the next moral crusade?

[Gaz]

Digger

http://news.sky.com/home/video/health/video/16144726

Digger speaks more sense in that short clip than anyone else i've heard over the past few months combined

[Nicey]

What irks me, is that the press and media have all come out, before anyone was even arrested, let alone charged or tried, and decided he was guilty.

If it turns out that he wasnt, or the police decide there's no case to answer, will the press provide an apology, in the same way they've been hounding Suarez to apologise?

Or will they just forget it and move onto the next moral crusade?

[BootRoom]

Just to satisfy my own curiosity. How on earth do you ban someone from a football ground(s)? How do you physically do it?

You can't, it's just a case of taking away a person's legal right to be in the ground. It's the same when somebody is banned from driving; they are not physically restrained from getting behind the wheel and driving off but if they are caught there are reprecussions.

[wavydavy]

I see. So IF you are caught back in the ground say a year into a two year ban you could be fined/jailed even?

[badpiggy]

What irks me, is that the press and media have all come out, before anyone was even arrested, let alone charged or tried, and decided he was guilty.

If it turns out that he wasnt, or the police decide there's no case to answer, will the press provide an apology, in the same way they've been hounding Suarez to apologise?

Or will they just forget it and move onto the next moral crusade?

I'll go for the next moral crusade option. Do I win £5?

[Exiled_red]

What irks me, is that the press and media have all come out, before anyone was even arrested, let alone charged or tried, and decided he was guilty.

If it turns out that he wasnt, or the police decide there's no case to answer, will the press provide an apology, in the same way they've been hounding Suarez to apologise?

Or will they just forget it and move onto the next moral crusade?

I think the standard procedure for the newspapers to issue an apology/retraction somewhere in small print hidden somewhere at the bottom of the page in the middle-back of the paper, where very few people will see it, and as the story was probably a front/back page headline the damage is already done

[BootRoom]

I see. So IF you are caught back in the ground say a year into a two year ban you could be fined/jailed even?

Yep. Obviously it makes getting tickets via legal means harder (or impossible) where you have to supply your ID, and I'm sure there must be a watchlist of somesort at the Club in order to enforce this.

Other measures are possible, like having a person report to a police station when a match is on to stop that person following a particular team, not sure about it though and certainly tricky for "lifetime" bans.