QPR Post-Match Thread

[Lecter]

Yes but are on that run now, it is no better now or the start of the season.

Suarez is not our problem.

I'll agree to disagree on both points

I think hes as much of a problem as some of the others

[Alex]

3 league goals and 7 league assists between them. Our midfield is seriously culpable for our season.

Thats what im saying.

Lecter seems to want to criticize Suarez. Which is fine. But its only really fair when the others get it too. There not really. People just seem to accept that there not scoring, but cant accept anything less than the best from Luis.

The bloke has carried the team most of the season. Fair enough he hasnt scored many. But its hardly his fault when he is playing with some below average players.

[Lecter]

High lighting suarez's faults seems very strange, saying our performances have been acceptable enough that we should forget results is bizarre.

I never said forget the results but I did say that sometimes you have to take into account more than just results (like people are doing for Suarez)

[Shaggy]

We're clearly not mate. Has your account been hacked?

I'm not counting the 6 month Hodgson reign of terror, I'm referring to proper managers who rightfully were given a good run at it. Houllier, Rafa. We never languished in 7th or 8th bar Rafa's last season and he got the bullet for it. Even then we crumbled to 7th near the end having challenged for 4th all the way to the end.

The league is as weak as it's ever been. A dysfunctional albeit rich City side, the worst United team in living memory, Chelsea in crisis, Arsenal in crisis, and Spurs doing well and then collapsing.

And we're clinging on to 7th.

To me that is as bad as it's ever been. Forget that abomination Hodgson. We knew it would be **** and it was ****. With Kenny, he's had universal support and had good money to spend, and we're hanging to 7th place for dear life.

[Slinky Skills]

Absoloutely awful result.

I try not to come on here straight after game's as I know I will flip out but that was a BAD result.

It's not a shock anymore losing games like this, it's not even a shock losing it in the manner we did.

I was sat with my brother watching the Chelsea game and as soon as I saw their first goal pop up I knew we were going to cock it up.

I said to my brother I'm going to go to my room and read my book because I knew we'd end up losing.

Very disappointing.

[Lecter]

Thats what im saying.

Lecter seems to want to criticize Suarez. Which is fine. But its only really fair when the others get it too. There not really. People just seem to accept that there not scoring, but cant accept anything less than the best from Luis.

The bloke has carried the team most of the season. Fair enough he hasnt scored many. But its hardly his fault when he is playing with some below average players.

I've criticised the others but many people seem to want to avoid the Suarez issue

Thats fair enough but I wont I think hes equally as culpable as the others

[Mattshark]

And forwards with 6% conversion rates arent

Oddly that is that is very similar to the conversion rate of the chances created by our great signings that you said would improve on Maxi and Kuyt last summer.

The problem is our midfield and their lack of quality.

[Jack D Rips]

I obviously missed the point. Improving on our time under Roy is what its all about. I feel a lot better now

[Alex]

I've criticised the others but many people seem to want to avoid the Suarez issue

Thats fair enough but I wont I think hes equally as culpable as the others

Thats what my problem with it is.

If the others had put even half the effort in he does, we wouldnt be in this mess. But they dont seem to be.

In my mind you start with your biggest problems, and that isnt Suarez.

If the Midfield was functioning like it should, then fair enough. Criticise him. Not now though.

[Craig_H]

I'm not counting the 6 month Hodgson reign of terror, I'm referring to proper managers who rightfully were given a good run at it. Houllier, Rafa. We never languished in 7th or 8th.

The league is as weak as it's ever been. A dysfunctional albeit rich City side, the worst United team in living memory, Chelsea in crisis, Arsenal in crisis, and Spurs doing well and then collapsing.

And we're clinging on to 7th.

To me that is as bad as it's ever been. Forget that abomination Hodgson. We knew it would be **** and it would be ****. With Kenny, he's had universal support and had good money to spend, and we're hanging to 7th place for dear life.

But we finished 7th under Rafa. I know there was things going on above him but the mere 'result' (if we're going to solely focus on them) is that we finished 7th.

And even forgetting Hodgson's time, what positions were we finishing under Souness? Rafa's CL win bought him time after what was a failed debut league season. Kenny's cup win(s) should do the same. And that's even before we get onto how absurd it is to just sack a manager after a year.

Houllier got 6 years, Rafa did too. Unless something unthinkable should happen regarding league position, why should Kenny only get one?

[The Birdman]

Everyone is frustrated but that is because Kenny has raised our expectation levels again, Roy Hodgson sucked the life and soul out of LFC and was the direct opposite of everything we stand for as a city, as a club and as a team.
If any other team with another manager had a season like ours, winning the Carling Cup, semi's in the FA Cup and some scintilating football ruined by being wasteful in front of goal all the fans and experts would be saying that club are a couple of signings away from a top 4 challenge.

Because it's us and because it's Kenny everything is magnified.

[Lecter]

Oddly that is that is very similar to the conversion rate of the chances created by our great signings that you said would improve on Maxi and Kuyt last summer.

The problem is our midfield and their lack of quality.

I'll agree to disagree

Suarez wastes chances that a half decent striker would bury doesnt matter who they are created by he still misses them

[Craig_H]

I obviously missed the point. Improving on our time under Roy is what its all about. I feel a lot better now

If you break it down into 'step by step' objectives, then yes, that surely has to be in amongst them? It's not the end objective, but then Kenny's not at the end of the kind of tenure a manager should be getting.

[Alex]

I'll agree to disagree

Suarez wastes chances that a half decent striker would bury doesnt matter who they are created by he still misses them

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That looks like a decent striker to me. Half of his goals are from balls played to him. When was the last time we sent a ball to him in a scoring position?

[Lecter]

Thats what my problem with it is.

If the others had put even half the effort in he does, we wouldnt be in this mess. But they dont seem to be.

In my mind you start with your biggest problems, and that isnt Suarez.

If the Midfield was functioning like it should, then fair enough. Criticise him. Not now though.

I criticise everyone

The midfield is creating chances for all them being **** players we are still high up in terms of number of chances created

We are right near the bottom in terms of finishing them