Liverpool v Wigan Post Match Thread

[vonk]

Can't argue with that.

I can. Too many selective comparisons. Rafa got sacked for finishing 7th in his 6th season. Kenny's had one and a half.

[cream]

That's wrong we'd be 3rd bottom (not that it makes things much better).

We've picked up 8 points since then, QPR have matched that (we'd be ahead on GD) and Wolves are worse than that with 5 points in 11 matches since the turn of the year

Hodgsonesque.

[doogle]

Interesting stat;

If the league started on January 1st, Liverpool would be bottom of the table.

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Liverpool are the worst Premier League team in 2012. Fact.

[Nicey]

Might give the rest of the season bar the FA cup a miss, theres only so much ****e you can take .. playing with a holding mid fielder against bottom of the table Wigan at your place is just piss weak ... shocking stuff .. out fought by Wigan .. jesus

[Mostar]

Hey Lee I made you your new Avatar

[Exiled_red]

Kenny needs to be given another season. We don't chop and change managers, it doesn't work. Rafa will not be back, to divisive.

I seriously see today as a turning point. I think it was Dalglish's acceptance that his signings have no worked.

Carroll - Very surprised he didnt start. For me this is a sign that Kenny does not trust him. When he came on we actually got worse. There were several good balls put into the box today yet he mistimed his runs or does his usual trick of falling over. He's rubbish and I think Kenny knows that now. Get rid.

Downing - Started poorly, misplacing some simple passes. Had a good end to the first half but was anonymous for the rest of the match. It was telling that he was withdrawn. Again, I think it showed that Kenny has lost faith in him.

Henderson - Withdrawn at half time, didn't realise he was playing first half. Awful performance.

Basically none of the three Kenny signings Carroll, Downing, Henderson completely 90 minutes. Surely that is a stark admission from the manager.

As for the others:

Carra - it can't have gone un-noticed that we have gone from a great defence to a poor one with Carra back. Time to give him a coaching role. Play Coates for the rest of the season.

Dirk - Completely anonymous today. Cannot have been surprised to be taken off.

Spearing - has played very well recently, but surely not needed at home to Wigan.

Gerrard -poor today, looks completely down. Cannot be a centre mid, as he cannot control the game. Better on the right or behind Suarez surely.

The kids - Sterling and Shelvey were good when they came on. Would love to see both get a run or games. Flanagan showed why he will struggle to get ahead of Kelly and Johnson. He is young, but not sure how he will get games really.

The teams bubble completely burst after the second goal. We are now bereft of confidence and it's difficult to see where the confidence is going to come from. Some big mistakes have been made, not least the failure to address the gaping hole up front in January. We can only hope Kenny has sussed the problems. We can only hope he doesn't actually believe the statements he is making to the press about luck, tiredness, and how good these players are. This is without question the worst Liverpool side in 3 decades. Average, mid table players all over the pitch.

How this goes is up to Kenny now. A failure to admit mistakes and ship out Carroll, Downing, Kuyt, Carra and not persist with the likes of Henderson starting every week will lose him his job and maybe some of the adoration he holds on the Kop.
Suarez - his tricky, try anything (even illegal) self at least tried everything today.

I don't think Carragher's return and our defence falling apart isn't something that has been missed (at least not on here).

I don't really see Spearing as a ball winner or a defensive midfielder in the mold of a Lucas, Hamann or Mascherano, but he is the nearest thing we have at the moment. I don't agree with what people have been saying over recent years that we don't need this type of player against Wigan (or similar clubs), there were times today where we couldn't get the ball back off them, at times in the second half today a ball winner was exactly what we needed.

I agree with most of the rest of your post.

[Bender]

Kenny: Tiredness took its toll comments like this will turn fans against dalglish ......would this have been his response had we won 5-0 no

[Lee]

Eh?



Mos?!?!

[Frenchie]

read Kenny's lips..."Hey Lee"

[Fredo]

Eh?



Mos?!?!

He says "Hey 'ere Lee".

[Mostar]

Eh?



Mos?!?!

read Kenny's lips..."Hey Lee"

[Mostar]

He says "Hey 'ere Lee".

I think he says just "Hey Lee" does he not?

[Buzzo]

Been out all day and just checked the score.

Beaten by QPR and Wigan in 4 days.

**** me

[Daniel 7]

Haha

HEY, LEEEEEE

[Kenneth]

I can. Too many selective comparisons. Rafa got sacked for finishing 7th in his 6th season. Kenny's had one and a half.

Depends how you look at it. Rafa didn't **** up until his sixth season, Kenny has done so already after one and a half.