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    We are still a big name in Europe even though we aren't in the Champions League. Players are aware that we have a history and have won the trophy more times than any other club bar Real Madrid and AC Milan. When Real Madrid weren't setting the world alight several years ago they were still Real Madrid!!!

    What a player has to think about is do they want to join a club for instant success, to collect a club name on their footballing CV, because they respect a style of football the club might play, want to play for a coach that will improve the player's game, or do they think the club will become successful.
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      Originally posted by Bender View Post
      just wait till i get on twitter
      Can you get Twitter on your Commodore 64?
      That rug really tied the room together.

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        Every team makes good signings and bad signings. We are no different. Who knows, maybe in a couple of years if Andy Carroll and Hendo have improved greatly then we'll be saying (apart from Downing and Adam) it was a great year for signings. That's the issue with signing players who are young and untested at a big club. I hope that FSG understand that it is not always easy for players to settle straight away. I think it wouldn't be such an issue if it we didn't spend so much money on these players though.

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          Originally posted by Liverpel View Post
          Can you get Twitter on your Commodore 64?
          i upgraded to a bbc acorn

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            Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
            No way was Mata going to join us.
            Likelihood is that you are correct but I am not sure that can be said with certainty.

            What we can say with certainty is that according to Mata we were not interested in his services.
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              The Sweeper: Sacked Comolli frustrated by Liverpool's 'Buy British' transfer policy

              Damien Comolli lost his job as Liverpool’s director of football last week as the club’s owners, Fenway Sports Group, held him responsible for the failure of high profile, big-money signings such as Andy Carroll.

              While Comolli publicly accepted his dismissal with good grace, saying he was “grateful” to have worked for Liverpool, friends of the Frenchman have told The Sweeper that he is privately “bitter and upset” about his departure.

              Comolli feels the American owners and manager Kenny Dalglish pushed him towards a transfer policy of targeting young British players even though he advised them that there was more value for money abroad.

              For example, Comolli is believed to have been extremely interested in signing Juan Mata last summer from Valencia and received encouragement from the Spaniard’s representatives.

              Dalglish was not so keen and the Reds instead signed an expensive compromise in Stewart Downing from Aston Villa for £20 million. The England winger is yet to score or provide an assist in the Premier League so far this season.

              While Comolli accepts he was happy to buy Downing, he believes the restrictions placed upon him led to Liverpool signing average players who have underperformed this season as Dalglish’s side sit eighth in the league table.

              There were a couple of success stories in Luis Suarez (£22.8m) and Jose Enrique (£6m) but Comolli was ultimately held accountable for the poor return from Carroll (£35m), Downing (£20m), Jordan Henderson (£16m) and Charlie Adam (£7m).

              The 49-year-old has now returned to France to spend time with his family - who never moved to Merseyside - and is keen for his next job to be with a Ligue 1 club due to the “family reasons” cited in the statement announcing his departure from Anfield.
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                a question to everyone one who is the bigger draw for players if they were/are managers of lfc rafa or dalglish ?

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                  If Dalglish fancied Downing over Mata then i'm speechless. Its a no-brainer.

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                    Originally posted by Bender View Post
                    a question to everyone one who is the bigger draw for players if they were/are managers of lfc rafa or dalglish ?
                    Ok,

                    What would be the bigger draw at the end of a season..

                    Champions League Football with Kenny, or 6th/7th place with Rafa?

                    I'm sure there are certain players that would not want to work with Rafa, in the same way some players might not want to work with Kenny..

                    imo, players want to win things and be successful..

                    I doubt Mancini was the reason Aguero and Nasri went to City.

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                      Originally posted by Shanks View Post
                      Ok,

                      What would be the bigger draw at the end of a season..

                      Champions League Football with Kenny, or 6th/7th place with Rafa?

                      I'm sure there are certain players that would not want to work with Rafa, in the same way some players might not want to work with Kenny..

                      imo, players want to win things and be successful..

                      I doubt Mancini was the reason Aguero and Nasri went to City.
                      not all players as your man city example made that clear
                      what kind of example is that ....you picked rafa's worst finish and something dalglish has not achieved yet....something that has happened and something that has not

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                        Originally posted by Bender View Post
                        not all players as your man city example made that clear
                        what kind of example is that ....you picked rafa's worst finish and something dalglish has not achieved yet....something that has happened and something that has not
                        Of course.. I think it depends on where we are as a club..

                        Regardless of who was in charge, if the club was in a successful position and we paid a decent wedge, we would attract a better calibre of player.
                        I dont think it would matter between Kenny, or Rafa.

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                          i think its obvious that downing and charlie adam were definitely kennys choices because they dont fit the fsg model.

                          in truth though only carroll and henderson do but you cant buy young english players without paying the british premium tax and thats what they have done with both of them.

                          if FSG want to continue to buy young and cheap theyre going to have to look abroad and supplement those foreign players with home grown academy players because theres no such thing as young and cheap in the EPL.

                          They might have to look further down the ladder at the championship sides who will sell top players but for not ridiculous prices with the likes of walcott and ox.
                          [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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                            Originally posted by Shanks View Post
                            Of course.. I think it depends on where we are as a club..

                            Regardless of who was in charge, if the club was in a successful position and we paid a decent wedge, we would attract a better calibre of player.
                            I dont think it would matter between Kenny, or Rafa.
                            Personally I think young players would be more attracted to Rafa than to Kenny for the obvious reasons of familiarity.

                            Kenny played and managed when majority of young talent now wasn't even born and memories are still very fresh of Rafa's monumental win over Milan in '05.

                            By looking from that angle I think Rafa would be bigger draw but there is no question that club's reputation and success, future vision and players wages are most deciding factors when it comes making decision by footballers these days which team to join.
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                              Who's 'The Sweeper' from Mostar's article?

                              I'd guess he got sacked for his negotiating skills regardless of the fact they are English?

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                                Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                                Personally I think young players would be more attracted to Rafa than to Kenny for the obvious reasons of familiarity.

                                Kenny played and managed when majority of young talent now wasn't even born and memories are still very fresh of Rafa's monumental win over Milan in '05.

                                By looking from that angle I think Rafa would be bigger draw but there is no question that club's reputation and success, future vision and players wages are most deciding factors when it comes making decision by footballers these days which team to join.
                                i think rafas only failure with a young footballer was ryan babel. Other than that he bought players with these approximate ages - alonso 22, torres 23, mascherano 24, reina 23, skrtel 23, agger 20, lucas 19, arbeloa 22.

                                you can see that rafa does have a record of developing young players and making them into world class operators who are all capable of playing at the highest level.

                                Kenny definitely doesnt have that sort of track record with young players but the game was different then. we signed experienced players and sometimes they spent a season or two in our reserve league and then were promoted up if they were good enough.

                                but if you were christian erikssen i think rafa would be the most attractive. He can also say of those players three now play for either real madrid or barcelona and will probably be playing a champions league final come may.
                                [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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