West Brom - Post Match

[Kronenburg1892]

We are already in the qualifiers for it as result of winning Carling Cup

Bollox. Forgot that.

[Kronenburg1892]

The league position doesn't lie, it is a barometer of how well a club is doing.

For potential managers & players, i don't think they'll be jumping at the chance to join a club that finishes 10th in the league, regardless of the brand. A strong league finish & a cup win IMO is vital.

I agree, league position does describe the strength of the team. But there isn't any chance we'll get fourth. The only thing to play for is bragging rights over Everton.

I'm not so concerned over your last para. LFC is still a massive club with a good reputation, sure there could be better offers elsewhere, but those teams have only so many places in their squads.

[red g]

The league position doesn't lie, it is a barometer of how well a club is doing.

For potential managers & players, i don't think they'll be jumping at the chance to join a club that finishes 10th in the league, regardless of the brand. A strong league finish & a cup win IMO is vital.

7th or 13th it doesnt matter a jot when attracting a player/manager where we finish this season.

What will matter is how deep FSG's pockets are and whether they are serious about turning us into future champions. If they are serious I am sure there will be plenty of decent players or managers interested

[~LFCHistory~]

7th or 13th it doesnt matter a jot when attracting a player/manager where we finish this season.

What will matter is how deep FSG's pockets are and whether they are serious about turning us into future champions. If they are serious I am sure there will be plenty of decent players or managers interested

Cisse, Ba, Tiote and Cabaye combined cost the same amount as Stewart Downing.

The myth that clubs not in the CL can't buy quality players has hopefully been comprehensively exposed for the lie that it is by Newcastle's exploits this season. That myth was never more than an attempt to rationalise/excuse Dalglish's woeful purchases (Downing, Henderson, Adam and Carroll).

Also the arguement that you need a big net spend to get CL football is another myth created to defend Dalglish. For example over the last 6 years Arsenal's combined net spend is lower than any team in the PL and that includes Swansea and Norwich and yet they have managed to qualify for the CL year in year out.

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/2006-2011.html

[BigChief]

That transfer league table is sickening.

[Lecter]

Cisse, Ba, Tiote and Cabaye combined cost the same amount as Stewart Downing.

Wages should be included when factoring in ANY comparisons between the cost value of players

Downing is ****e we never should have bought him

Thats enough of an argument there without embellishing and diluting your argument

[Mattshark]

I've been supportive of Luis this season. I love him to bits but his moaning doesn't help. Some situations when he could show awareness after putting himself into great positions, he just is too selfish. Agger went ballistic at him on one occasion. He tried to score in an impossible angle. Sorry, but he loses us games.

He was also responsible for some of our best chance creation for other players. Sorry but blaming him for losing us games is plain stupid.

What about our midfield that don't score goals? In fact they often don't get into the box. Carroll doesn't score enough either.
Blaming Suarez is crazy.

[Craig_H]

Incredible. The story of our season summed up in 90 minutes.

I don't have the words.

This. Sheer absurdity. 28 shots. Twenty ****ing eight.

[Craig_H]

Same story, we create loads and can't score. Our attackers are not goalscorers, simple as that. Out of the amount of chances we create, this is incredible. I've never seen this before.

It's ****ing insane. I've been watching football for over 25 years and i've seen nothing like it. I'm sure there'll be those who have been watching for half a century and not seen the likes of this before.

Need the season to end and everyone to forget this - it's psychological now.

[Exiled_red]

This. Sheer absurdity. 28 shots. Twenty ****ing eight.

Twenty eight shots is double the number Everton had against Man Utd and they scored 4 goals, while we scored none

Another frustrating thing is I can't even recall Ben Foster making any good saves.

[Kronenburg1892]

This. Sheer absurdity. 28 shots. Twenty ****ing eight.

Pretty much all when there were 9 behind the ball.

[Lecter]

It's ****ing insane. I've been watching football for over 25 years and i've seen nothing like it. I'm sure there'll be those who have been watching for half a century and not seen the likes of this before.

Need the season to end and everyone to forget this - it's psychological now.

I've watched Liverpool for over 35 years* and I've never seen a side waste so many chances as we have this season










* I nearly said 36 years worth of experience but I would have sounded too much like Roy

[Craig_H]

Sometimes you have to sell a class player to improve your team

Not advocating doing that myself but its one view to have

Be honest Lec, you are obviously advocating that. With all the criticism you've given Suarez this season, it's obvious you want him sold and think we'd be better off doing that. I dont agree, but if you think that it's entirely your perogative. Just dont get why you say otherwise.

[Craig_H]

I see what he is saying but unless it's the Prem, or the CL, a trophy is not a sign of success now..(For LFC)

Honestly cant get my head around that. How can a trophy not be a sign of success?

The league campaign has been a real letdown, but in the Cups we've been practically perfect. If we beat Chelsea, we'll have been perfect in the Cups.

How could two cups in one season not be a sign of success?

This thing about 'unless it's the PL or the CL it's not worth it' - ****ing really???

How spoilt does that sound?? And before this season, we hadnt been spoilt with trophies for more than half a decade.

Completely cant get my head around it.

[TheElephantMan]

I've come to the conclusion that we would be a much better side without Suarez - he's a great footballer, but incredibly greedy and wasteful. I love watching him, he's fantastic. He isn't a team player and he isn't scoring enough goals to carry the team.