New manager thread

[malg]

To paraphrase Woody Allen, we know that knowability is unknowable but we don't know how we know whether unknowability is knowable or, if we know it is, then it's not unknowable, so meaning that knowability ultimately remains unknowable even when we know it isn't.

I think that's clear.

Ahhhhhhh I see , I think.

[little dave hedgehog]

American love

he's got a similar posting style to mr. m. informative, thorough and often correct, regardless of nationality.

[Assassin]

he's got a similar posting style to mr. m. informative, thorough and often correct, regardless of nationality.

Why dont you just bend over and whistle dixie

[vonk]

If we keep hiring manager that fans are opposed to before hand and we get Hodgson results over and over.. Fans will stop going to games, stop buying merchandise.. And do you think the fans from all around the world will be there forever? Not a chance, if carry on like this and finish around 8th the numbers will dwindle. Chelsea have caught up already.

The question is why are some fans opposed to him? I suspect the only ones who are are those who want Rafa back. I don't see any other options floating around apart from those mentioned. Who did you expect us to get?

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

But how can you know? And under this logic, the only managers worth appointing are the ones who have managed at a huge club and few of those are available. What would Pep Guardiola have done at Wigan with their players? "only made them survive" is my guess... Its WIGAN. No manager walks in there given their financial limitations and turns them into world beaters. Big clubs have money to buy the best players and managers look great because they have great players. The car analogy is to say-- sometimes the tools you're given set the limits of your capabilities. With great tools, perhaps he could be great? It's a risk, but any new manager is a risk. Even Kenny failed with our players and his CV is insane. Perhaps the limitations of his employer are not the parameters of his ability ?

Valencia aren't a HUGE club - Benitez
Porto aren't either - Mourinho & AVB
Dortmund are better placed but not bigger than us - Klopp
Bilbao - Beisla

There is a gulf from those at good clubs proving to be good managers to Wigan and Swansea.. Its a much bigger risk.

Its not like people are asking for Mourinho from Madrid and the Guardiola links are retarded.

[Assassin]

The question is why are some fans opposed to him? I suspect the only ones who are are those who want Rafa back. I don't see any other options floating around apart from those mentioned. Who did you expect us to get?

You also have to remember there are mancs and bitters feeding the "opposers"

[bigbill]

Gunga Din has been on Twitter again...guess who FSG are coming to see next week....

I want to believe it...I really do.

[Shaggy]

So do I. But I don't.

[malg]

Gunga Din has been on Twitter again...guess who FSG are coming to see next week....

I want to believe it...I really do.

Is it Alex MacLeish ?

[Fredo]

Thank God for Americans.

They've taken over our club, now they're taking over this thread.

[bigbill]

**** it, I'm going to believe it...at least for a while...let's be honest, with all the ****e flying around at the minute, its as likely as anything else.

[vonk]

Valencia aren't a HUGE club - Benitez
Porto aren't either - Mourinho & AVB
Dortmund are better placed but not bigger than us - Klopp
Bilbao - Beisla

There is a gulf from those at good clubs proving to be good managers to Wigan and Swansea.. Its a much bigger risk.

Its not like people are asking for Mourinho from Madrid and the Guardiola links are retarded.

Where was Klopp before he led Dortmund to two titles?

[Fredo]

Gunga Din has been on Twitter again...guess who FSG are coming to see next week....

I want to believe it...I really do.

That username reminds me of gengis khan.

[little dave hedgehog]

They've taken over our club, now they're taking over this thread.

is anybody going to talk about the xenophobia on rawk now?

no?

ok.

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

The question is why are some fans opposed to him? I suspect the only ones who are are those who want Rafa back. I don't see any other options floating around apart from those mentioned. Who did you expect us to get?

I'd agree it seems that way.. I also want Rafa back BUT only because he's the best available to us IMO, he's willing to come back because he love the club.

My reason for not wanting Martinez is I don't want to be back to this in 1 or 2 years time. We're getting a man in that has done well and managed to survive, not based on balanced performances over the course of a season. But providing late escape tricks, which may equally be down to the players.

To me there is the top class of manager, proven winners at the top level.

Mourinho
Guardiola
Ferguson

Then those who have blemishes against them even at top level but still proved they're up to it.

Capello
Rafa
AVB
Van Gaal

Next the proving themselves still and looking really really promising at a good level.

Klopp
Beisla

We then skip the, done it at a poorer level over a period of time.. This includes

Moyes
Pardew

And we hit the level of promising but really unproven at any kind of level we can compare to our situation.

Rodgers
Martinez

In each of those groups I have my favourites but on managerial ability ALONE I'd never choose someone from what is to me a lower class. Obviously Moyes and Fergie have other issues and they are who they are.