New manager thread

[lickedlollipop]

So, out of curiosity, does anyone know what the Mancs/Toffees etc are saying on their internet forums? Are they all laughing their heads off that Rodgers is the 'best we could get' or are they nervous that we've made a shrewd recruitment?

most of the Mancs (redcafe precisely) are not laughing and they say it's quite good appointment.

[magicalbarnes]

He left when Dalglish left. Keep up to speed.

If your going to be a WUM at least do it properly, and do your research first. As WUM's go - your ****.

[CJ]

most of the Mancs (redcafe precisely) are not laughing and they say it's quite good appointment.

so at the moment he is an arse of indeterminate origin

[RichC]

Chatting to a mate last night, big Manc fan and he's of the opinion it's a good appointment, young forward thinking manager but he'll need to be backed and stuck with for a few seasons to implement his strategy.

[Zapater]

I don't think applies to Rodgers, but I'm always nervous with managers who make a step up in the transfer market. You never know if they'll do an Allerdyce where they buy the same quality of player for inflated fees because they have larger budgets. As I said though, I really don't think it applies in this case. And let's be honest we can't do worse than last season

[Boogs]

IMO some of our fans expectations have been enhanced by the success and impact Rafa had when he first arrived at Liverpool. He threw himself into the job and obviously spent time reading about our history in the time he was approached and signing for the club. Rafa winning the CL in his first year had left him and recent LFC managers with a difficult act to follow.
I'm intrigued by Rodgers appointment and air on the side of caution but feel quietly confident. It's certainly a bold move by FSG and I hope one that pays off.

[Gingawaria]

I asked my Watford supporting mate about him last night and he thought it was an odd appointment but admitted he hadn't followed his career that closely since leaving them.

He said he did a good job for Watford in a very difficult period as all their best players were being sold to prevent them from going into administration but that he didn't really get a chance to leave any sort of legacy as he left for Reading pretty quickly.

[dom9]

Yes I am. Like I said, when it comes to managerial appointments we have been rodgered more times than a police walkie talkie.

You are a desperate individual. Kindly please **** off.

[BootRoom]

Oh god, yes. He was terrible, although... If the fans had just put up with it then FSG may have allowed him to hang on until the summer before starting the very revolution they've now embarked on. That was mentioned at the time.

So it's arguable our vociferous reaction to Bronto means we lost a year. And I think in that year we have become a less attractive career move for many European coaches, although I wouldn't want to overstate the case.

Rodgers' advantage is that we all (ok, nearly all - BobtheCharmer doesn't like it) want his preferred style of play to succeed so I'm sure the fans will be more patient than we were, rightly, with Hodgson.

I think the "giving a Manager more time" point is a slightly different argument, and is more specific to the owners, rather than the Manager.

If there is a "should he get more time" debate going on then it indicates we are not doing well, so, why aren't we doing well? The point I'm making is that, to answer that question with: "We aren't doing well because the Manager hasn't got the unanimous backing of the crowd" is not acceptable.

[Macedonian_Red]

I agree about the financial model argument. It's got to be sound and sustainable but the expectations of the fans needs to be managed.

I feel that this is the main problem at the moment ... The expectations of the fans have been heavily managed and manipulated, and there is a new Bible saying that finishing 4th is all that matters ... The **** it is ... Liverpool Football Club should be challenging for the Premier League title, the Champions League title and the domestic cups every season ... In order to do that, we need to spend heavily, and we need world class players and a world class manager ... If FSG can't provide that, they are not the right owners for the most successful club in England ... They should go and buy Everton, and make them sustainable and profitable ... We want trophies ...

[Alex]

Just read that Brendo includes the keeper in his formations like Rafa did

[dom9]

I feel that this is the main problem at the moment ... The expectations of the fans have been heavily managed and manipulated, and there is a new Bible saying that finishing 4th is all that matters ... The **** it is ... Liverpool Football Club should be challenging for the Premier League title, the Champions League title and the domestic cups every season ... In order to do that, we need to spend heavily, and we need world class players and a world class manager ... If FSG can't provide that, they are not the right owners for the most successful club in England ... They should go and buy Everton, and make them sustainable and profitable ... We want trophies ...

And in order to do that, we need to regularly qualify for the CL. It's really not that hard to understand.

[Phoenix07]

The main gripe last season amongst critics like myself was that I couldn't see a settled system and the transfers made no sense in terms of a bigger picture.

It was a mish mash of 'let's try this and let's try that'. A settled system, players bought to fit into that system, a clearly defined pattern of play and a more intelligent style of play i.e. controlling the game, slowing tempo when required.

That will do for me next season just like many fans were satisfied with Rafa's first season before we won the Champions League.

[dom9]

Lawro...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18269858

Liverpool are gambling on Brendan Rodgers, says Mark Lawrenson

Former Liverpool defender Mark Lawrenson believes appointing Brendan Rodgers at Anfield is a major gamble.

Rodgers, who led Swansea to 11th place in the Premier League last season, is poised to sign a three-year contract.

"It's a great appointment for him and the biggest gamble the club have taken in a long time," Lawrenson said.

"Liverpool supporters will give him a chance. They will give him time. But if they don't look like finishing anywhere near top four, what do the owners do?"

Rodgers had coaching spells at Reading and Chelsea before taking charge at Watford in November 2008.

Having guided the Hornets to 13th in the Championshp he joined Reading in the summer of 2009 but left the club by mutual consent in December of that year following a string of indifferent results.

He was appointed Swansea boss in the summer of 2010 and they became the first Welsh team to reach the Premier League after beating his old club Reading in the play-off final.
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Asked about the 39-year-old's credentials, Lawrenson told the BBC News Channel: "Rodgers has done a great job at Swansea, everyone loves the way they play their football.

"The chance for Brendan to manage a club which is in the top 10 in the country was too much to resist. It's a different challenge for him, the club will be expected to win every game.

"Liverpool spent an awful lot of money last season, there's no doubt they overspent. It's a big job for Rodgers because he'll be responsible for everything as there's no director of football.

"Swansea have lost managers before, Roberto Martinez went to Wigan. They're a very good and well-run football club."

Former Watford chairman Graham Simpson, who gave Rodgers his first managerial job in football, told BBC Radio 5 live:

"Quite a lot has been spoken about Rodgers in the corridors of football. Players have respect for him. When he came to see me, we sat down for three to four hours and he came with his philosophy.

"He brought with him a heavy file which he went through explaining why and how the game should be played.

"He was impressive, he was thoughtful, he was very sincere and he was one of those people who combined technical knowledge with spending his time learning his trade.

"You don't meet too many young managers like that. When he's in the dressing room, people will listen to him but he's not a ranter or raver."

Reading chairman Sir John Madejski, who appointed Rodgers to the Reading job in 2009, before he left later that year, told BBC Radio 5 live:

"I've always considered Brendan Rodgers to be a first-class manager and a great guy. He is a very straight-forward person and I think his determination and unbridled honesty would have impressed the Liverpool club owners.

"While he was at Reading we had a good and warm rapport but the results just didn't work out. We parted on good terms and I wished him every success in the future at the time and I am delighted he is back up there.

"He has done a great job at Swansea - I'm all for young blood coming along and taking over the reins - it is not always about people who have been in the game for years - sometimes it is great to have fresh blood because they can respond to players because they are more akin to them."

Alec Chamberlain, who worked as a goalkeeping coach under Rodgers at Watford, told BBC Radio 5 live:

"It's been a fantastic rise for Brendan Rodgers, from his time cutting his teeth in management at Watford to Reading then really finding success at Swansea.

"I thought that Roberto Martinez would have had a very good chance, but Brendan Rodgers has taken Swansea into the Premier League and they've performed so well.

"Everybody has stood up and taken notice this year. All credit to Brendan for the way he's gone about his job there."

Former Liverpool winger John Barnes on BBC Radio 5 live:

"I always say that when you have a philosophy on football, you need the players who can instil that. Are they the type of players who can play the way Rodgers wants them to? They will have to have some adjustment.

"We have to give the situation time to develop. You have to come to a point where you can't keep changing managers year in, year out. It's been 20 years since we have won league.

"We've been chopping and changing. We need to do what is in the best interests of the club, even if that means we don't qualify for the Champions League in the next three years."

Former Liverpool striker Robbie Fowler told paddypower.com:

"For what Brendan Rodgers has achieved at Swansea, he deserves huge respect. He's worked under Jose Mourinho at Chelsea so he knows the score and he's worked with top players.

"The new manager will need to bring in new players again to take Liverpool from a top-eight club to a top-four club. That's going to be really difficult. It's a massive challenge."

[Macedonian_Red]

And in order to do that, we need to regularly qualify for the CL. It's really not that hard to understand.

And in order to beat the current top 5 teams to a CL spot, FSG need to spend their own money (lots of it) on the improvement of the team, just like the owners of City or Spurs have done over the past 5 years ... Then we can talk about long term sustainability ...