New manager thread

[Reece]

How do people expect us to compete with Manchester City and Chelsea? This is a genuine question. I don't necessarily mean in the next couple of years as that is somewhat unrealistic, but what model should we follow to give us the best chance long term?

[MrMichael]

Thats the problem though isnt it

If Rodgers doesnt make the right signings the rumblings will start

If he doesnt hit the ground running certain sections of the support will be on his back

Unfortunately this is the world we live in

Same problem with virtually any appointment though. Even Rafa, imagine how much the press would love to jump on his back if he'd come back and we started badly. And its not like the man never divided the fans before. Similar sort of issues with say Capello. Sure it might be a bit exaggerated with a more inexperienced manager, but sometimes you've got to take a chance and a bit of a longer term view, and that's what it seems FSG are doing with Rodgers. Not the obvious candidate, but its a brave appointment imo. He who dares does sometimes win....

Because by using that financial model, we might qualify for the Champions League eventually, but we will never get a realistic chance to win the Premier League or the Champions League ... The worst possible scenario ...

Oh seriously though, really? Find us a multi-billionaire prepared to throw hundreds of millions a season at us so we can compete financially with City & Chelsea. Otherwise we blatantly have to try something different. By all means, if you want to feel defeated before we even start then feel free, but personally I think that's quite poor.

[Macedonian_Red]

Lol. Arsenals financial model - sustainable, focused on spending within your means, developing youth, stable, and resulting in consistent top 4 finishes. As opposed to what, the ridiculous profligacy and frankly completely distasteful spending of Chelsea and City that nobody without a few spare billion can possibly consider. Yup, those evil FSG guys, what the **** are they doing to our club?

What is the point of Arsenal, really? Their fans pay expensive tickets and merchandise, yet the club sells a star player every year, and they never really challenge for anything ... True, they qualify for the play-offs every season ...

[Lecter]

How do people expect us to compete with Manchester City and Chelsea? This is a genuine question. I don't necessarily mean in the next couple of years as that is somewhat unrealistic, but what model should we follow to give us the best chance long term?

A new stadium has to be part of any long term strategy

Revenues need to be increasing and that is one of the revenue streams we must maximise

Outside of financial requirements the biggest thing required is patience from both the fans & FSG

I hope that is given, I have my doubts whether either party will give it

[Alex]

A new stadium has to be part of any long term strategy

Revenues need to be increasing and that is one of the revenue streams we must maximise

Outside of financial requirements the biggest thing required is patience from both the fans & FSG

I hope that is given, I have my doubts whether either party will give it

Why cant there be patience displayed about a new Stadium then? They need time to make sure they will make the right decision. If we move and it massively fails, they will be forever known as the blokes who destroyed Anfield.

[Lecter]

Why cant there be patience displayed about a new Stadium then? They need time to make sure they will make the right decision. If we move and it massively fails, they will be forever known as the blokes who destroyed Anfield.

Only someone who hasnt shown patience can answer that

I've no problems with FSG taking their time on the stadium

I'd rather they take their time and get things right rather than blunder half-way down a path costing us time and money before having to do a u-turn

[Alex]

Only someone who hasnt shown patience can answer that

I've no problems with FSG taking their time on the stadium

I'd rather they take their time and get things right rather than blunder half-way down a path costing us time and money before having to do a u-turn

Apologies, I thought you were calling for it quicker. Sorry Lec.

But yes, your totally right. Id rather they spent 4 years and do it right, than 1 year and totally **** it up.

[Fredo]

I agree about the financial model argument. It's got to be sound and sustainable but the expectations of the fans needs to be managed.

[Rowan]

Apologies, I thought you were calling for it quicker. Sorry Lec.

But yes, your totally right. Id rather they spent 4 years and do it right, than 1 year and totally **** it up.

FSGs problem in this is that their 4 years is on top of a couple from H+G and the time Moores and Parry invested. When was it first actually mooted

I can understand given that context why people think the infernal blasted thing'll never be built. Still, I've a lot of faith in FSG

[Lecter]

I agree about the financial model argument. It's got to be sound and sustainable but the expectations of the fans needs to be managed.

[Alex]

FSGs problem in this is that their 4 years is on top of a couple from H+G and the time Moores and Parry invested. When was it first actually mooted

I can understand given that context why people think the infernal blasted thing'll never be built. Still, I've a lot of faith in FSG

Your right, it will be more like 10 years by the time its started

Someones making some serious dough drawing up plans for all the different designs.

[Gingawaria]

Anyone else reckon that with Rodgers coming in, it might mean some of the players that were looking certain to leave might stay? Maxi is exactly the sort of player that would thrive under his system and I reckon he might get more game time next season if he stays.

[Red_Polo]

Fair enough, but I'm not the first one in this thread to say "****ing Rodgers" at some point. Alas it's the only time it seems to provoke a response. The small time business was in relation to the managements decision making. Can you imagine any other team of our size giving an inexperienced manager who wasn't an icon at their club (i.e. Guardiola) a job like this? 1 season ago no one would consider him a candidate, now he's getting the job, as I say, it was a very good season, but football relies on continuity and this is a massive risk, that to be honest we don't need.

I didn't say it wasn't a progressive decision, I was indicating it perhaps isn't the wisest.

Allegri at AC Milan?

You're right, it is a gamble and I'm not pretending I'd have appointed Rodgers by any means, but I think the level of dismay from some people is a bit much.

[Alex]

Anyone else reckon that with Rodgers coming in, it might mean some of the players that were looking certain to leave might stay? Maxi is exactly the sort of player that would thrive under his system and I reckon he might get more game time next season if he stays.

After Comolli went I think there was talk of him staying another season and seeing out his contract. Id love to see him stay another year or 2.

[BootRoom]

How do people expect us to compete with Manchester City and Chelsea? This is a genuine question. I don't necessarily mean in the next couple of years as that is somewhat unrealistic, but what model should we follow to give us the best chance long term?

1. New Stadium
2. Implementation of the FFP plan - if it works like it's supposed to i.e. eliminate the "rich benefactor effect".

Even without the new ground, the FFP should in theory close up the field, but the fly in the ointment is CL revenue that we are missing out on, and it's doubling next season.