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  • Gibbo
    Like a boss
    • Jul 2010
    • 26212

    #1231
    Originally posted by Robbie-9-Fowler
    Here is a quick point, what players would you like to see follow a manager that comes in?

    Rodgers - Swansea
    Martinez - Wigan
    AVB - Porto links probably
    Can't really include Rafa I suppose.
    None
    None
    Falcao
    The times they are a changin'.

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    • Robbie-9-Fowler
      Shankly
      • Jun 2008
      • 9213

      #1232
      Originally posted by little dave hedgehog
      no way on earth would i take jose over rafa.
      I'm a huge Rafa fan but Mourinho is a superior manager IMO.

      With Rafa we get the advantage of his love for the club, he'd stick around and he's already familiar with us.

      But I've argued that sentiment isn't a good reason to hire someone so between the 2 for pure footballing reason's Mourinho even if he is a cunt would be better.
      Vive la France

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      • Robbie-9-Fowler
        Shankly
        • Jun 2008
        • 9213

        #1233
        Originally posted by Gibbo9
        None
        None
        Falcao
        Depending on Reina, just because he's been linked with a move in the past, I'd take Vorm if we needed a GK personally.

        Porto have a good few interesting players.. Falcao would be immense but I'm about as likely to sign.
        Vive la France

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        • TheElephantMan
          Hodgsoned
          • Jul 2006
          • 9076

          #1234
          Originally posted by Robbie-9-Fowler
          We need a man that knows the European market well IMO because the talent here is such a limited pool.
          How many realistic managers are there who could bring the best players into the club?

          I think it has been proven that the buy British policy is flawed and buying Premiership experienced players hasn't worked either. We need to be smart with our transfer dealings, not paying over the odds for average players. I am convincing myself more daily that we need a smart manager with fresh ideas, I don't think that having an extensive CV (let's say 36 years in football management for example) always equates to success.

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          • Mark79
            Paisley
            • Jun 2008
            • 11006

            #1235
            Originally posted by little dave hedgehog
            no way on earth would i take jose over rafa.
            Fair enough, but does that mean you think that there isn't a single other manager good enough for LFC?
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            • little dave hedgehog
              Token Yank
              • Mar 2009
              • 29963

              #1236
              what on earth? all i'm saying is that i despise mourinho. there's only a couple of names on the above list that i'm not interested in for one reason or another.
              dave of mutilation

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              • Robbie-9-Fowler
                Shankly
                • Jun 2008
                • 9213

                #1237
                Originally posted by TheElephantMan
                How many realistic managers are there who could bring the best players into the club?

                I think it has been proven that the buy British policy is flawed and buying Premiership experienced players hasn't worked either. We need to be smart with our transfer dealings, not paying over the odds for average players. I am convincing myself more daily that we need a smart manager with fresh ideas, I don't think that having an extensive CV (let's say 36 years in football management for example) always equates to success.
                I don't know who has the best knowledge of the market to be fair. Rafa seemed to with Alves, Silva, Mata whoever else we couldn't afford but seemed to want.

                AVB could well do for all I know, not sure who he brought to Porto.

                My fear with a Martinez type is that he hasn't had to concentrate on talented players from abroad because he'd have had no chance anyway. He'll have came across the better English player/PremierLeague due to playing them.
                Vive la France

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                • TheElephantMan
                  Hodgsoned
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 9076

                  #1238
                  Originally posted by Robbie-9-Fowler
                  My fear with a Martinez type is that he hasn't had to concentrate on talented players from abroad because he'd have had no chance anyway. He'll have came across the better English player/PremierLeague due to playing them.
                  All we know for sure is that he has succeeded in maintaining Wigan's status as a Premiership club which is surely all that could be expected given the finances available. We are looking to appoint a manager who will achieve our expectations within our financial limitations.

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                  • Robbie-9-Fowler
                    Shankly
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 9213

                    #1239
                    Originally posted by TheElephantMan
                    All we know for sure is that he has succeeded in maintaining Wigan's status as a Premiership club which is surely all that could be expected given the finances available. We are looking to appoint a manager who will achieve our expectations within our financial limitations.
                    Yes but the two are night and day.. Survival vs Expectation to improve and push on.

                    Edit: For me the natural move for Martinez would have been Villa if we didn't have the situation. It's the next step up on the ladder.
                    Vive la France

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                    • Mark79
                      Paisley
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 11006

                      #1240
                      Originally posted by little dave hedgehog
                      what on earth? all i'm saying is that i despise mourinho. there's only a couple of names on the above list that i'm not interested in for one reason or another.
                      Right, so its not a question of not being able to look beyond Rafa then.
                      I'm just talking in relation to my post to Mr M, which I thought you were responding to.
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                      • little dave hedgehog
                        Token Yank
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 29963

                        #1241
                        if it were just me i'd probably hire rafa, but i think there are plenty of reasons to want to hire other people. rafa and klopp themselves were risky gambles at one point.
                        dave of mutilation

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                        • TheElephantMan
                          Hodgsoned
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 9076

                          #1242
                          Originally posted by Robbie-9-Fowler
                          Yes but the two are night and day.. Survival vs Expectation to improve and push on.
                          Why are the two things so different? Every club has expectations according to their finances, we expect to reach the Champions League every season. I would love us to win the Premiership, but that is becoming increasingly difficult given our financial limitations compared to other clubs. I think we can be comfortable with our expectations to reach second, third or fourth most seasons. We need a manager capable of getting the most out of the relatively limited finances we have at our disposal and we certainly can't afford to pay over the odds for crap/average players.

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                          • Fierce
                            I'm only the bassist
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 15834

                            #1243
                            Tixi Whatshischops - General Manager
                            Martinez - Head Coach
                            Pep Segura - Technical Director
                            Didi Hamann - Assistant 1st Team Coach
                            Valero Mateyboy - Goalkeeping Coach

                            This is in the event that Guardiola rejects us, which is almost a guarantee
                            I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
                            There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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                            • Fosterbloke
                              Run the Jewels
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 39095

                              #1244
                              Would love to see Sami Hyypia come back as defensive coach.
                              Was mu

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                              • Liverpool
                                Paisley
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 16915

                                #1245
                                Originally posted by foresterbloke
                                Would love to see Sami Hyypia come back as defensive coach.
                                signed a 3 year deal yesterday as manager

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