New manager thread

[Vermilion]

A dressing room full of 30+ year olds is easy to manage if you are looking for a good performance just once a fortnight, but is really difficult to manage if you are looking for consistency and at the time time looking to rebuild. So AVB had an impossible task.

But AVB also made a large number of school boy errors and his people management skills proved to be useless.

I would not want him anywhere nearLFC.

He did yes, but that's not symptomatic of his whole career so far is it ?

Any manager we choose, people will be able to find some legitimate fault with imo.

[souliv]

I think AVB could be a great Liverpool manager before we appointed Kenny he is who I wanted , I really think the Chelsea experience will have made him a better manager.

[Buzzo]

He did yes, but that's not symptomatic of his whole career so far is it ?

It is symptomatic of a reasonable chunk of his 3 years of management experience.

My biggest problem with AVB is that he is 34 years old. He is coming at this about 6 or 7 years to early.

[Ben_Itez]

I'm not sure it is about it being beyond his level but I do think it is a problem that he showed absolutely no pragmatism at Chelsea. No matter how much one dislikes Lampard, Drogba etc. you have to accept they are good players capable of winning a lot of games if the right tactics are used. AVB never compromised and his results suffered for it.

Our squad is less good and no more suited to his idealised style of play. If we do plump for him I think there is no chance of challenging for 4th next season. If he's the one we go for we need to back him for at least two seasons come what may. The record of FSG doesn't imply they want to do that.

I think if a club had the right players or gave him long enough I think he would be a success, for us I predict a disaster.

Agree though that it would be great to see him prove his Chelsea fan critics wrong (and the sniping journalists).

Agree with most of that.

For me the biggest downside to AVB as manager is that IMO he comes across as a complete cunt and managed to alienate almost every player at Chelsea (if there's truth in Fanning's article).

He did well at Porto but doesnt every manager there do well due to there only being two top teams? Martin O'Neill has a great record at Celtic but i wouldnt want him anywhere near LFC.

There is no way Rafa was ever going to get the job in the first place.

And there has been a fanatical reaction to him coming back as manager by many LFC supporters, that in itself would have made FSG's mind up.

Is that a fact Dan? Why the past tense?

nothing wrong with opinion. To be honest we are all guessing, unfortunately uncertainty breeds fear and impatience. Think that is what we are seeing from alot of LFC supporters.

[danperkins]

A dressing room full of 30+ year olds is easy to manage if you are looking for a good performance just once a fortnight, but is really difficult to manage if you are looking for consistency and at the time time looking to rebuild. So AVB had an impossible task.

But AVB also made a large number of school boy errors and his people management skills proved to be useless.

I would not want him anywhere near LFC.

Fair points on both sides. IMO he made the wrong move to Chelsea and should have stayed at Porto for another year.

I think he is a good young manager with so much potential but yes i do worry about how wrong he got it with Drogba & Lampard. And with both players performing so well since his departure & being major catalysts in Chelsea winning the FA Cup & the Champs League it looks even more glaring.

We are in such a precarious position at the moment. I genuinely am worried who FSG will appoint. I hope they make the right choice, and back the manager to the hilt when they make their choice.

[Vermilion]

It is symptomatic of a reasonable chunk of his 3 years of management experience.

My biggest problem with AVB is that he is 34 years old. He is coming at this about 6 or 7 years to early.

True, and fair point, but a bigger chunk is symptomiatic of him being a brilliant forward thinking manager.

It's just swings and roundabouts really, as i say, every manager they choose will have bad career points, that FSG will need to look at in context.

[danperkins]

Agree with most of that.

For me the biggest downside to AVB as manager is that IMO he comes across as a complete cunt and managed to alienate almost every player at Chelsea (if there's truth in Fanning's article).

He did well at Porto but doesnt every manager there do well due to there only being two top teams? Martin O'Neill has a great record at Celtic but i wouldnt want him anywhere near LFC.




Is that a fact Dan? Why the past tense?

Ah i remember you Ben, we had this chat before didn't we? I think i said something like "With your username this conversation will never be balanced". So i bid you good day sir

And the fear and uncertainty comment i made, i was including myself.

[Buzzo]

True, and fair point, but a bigger chunk is symptomiatic of him being a brilliant forward thinking manager.

It's just swings and roundabouts really, as i say, every manager they choose will have bad career points, that FSG will need to look at in context.

he undoubtedly has ability - I just think his time at Chelsea showed he is not quite ready yet.

[danperkins]

Harry Redknapp down to 9-1 to be next LFC manager and................. let it burn

[souliv]

Dion Fanning's article is very interesting and seems to indicate De Boer could be a front runner would be interesting to see could he make the step up from the Dutch league.

[danperkins]

De Boer would be a very interesting choice with an incredible footballing background obviously. Relatively new to the managerial scene but done well. Would be a risky appointment but
i wouldn't be that adverse to it.

[Phoenix07]

Frank De Boer would be an incredible snap, but I can't see him leaving Ajax. Like his style of play and the way he doesn't take crap from anyone.

[danperkins]

Frank De Boer would be an incredible snap, but I can't see him leaving Ajax. Like his style of play and the way he doesn't take crap from anyone.

certainly is a nonsense character. Is doing well with Ajax and has history with the club but you'd wonder would he like a new challenge?

[souliv]

I think that is the appealing thing about the Liverpool job , it will be a challenge but the new manager will be given time to get things right

[danperkins]

I think that is the appealing thing about the Liverpool job , it will be a challenge but the new manager will be given time to get things right

true but also a dangerous job to, as it could harm a career too.