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    Judith Moritz ‏@JudithMoritz
    Breaking: Lord Justice Goldring says full #Hillsborough inquest will NOT await outcome of the other investigations.
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      Some saying though that officers may not give evidence then as don't want to incriminate themselves in criminal proceedings

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        ‏@CalvinBook 8m

        Glad to see judge has dismissed despicable attempt by Police Fed to delay new Hillsborough inquests by up to three years
        @DebiMcMillan96 Great news on #hillsborough inquest NOT being delayed. "Early 2014" is timeframe given.
        @LivEchoLFC
        Fresh Hillsborough inquests should be held in London early next year, QC says
        Rome wasn't built in a day, but it wasn't built by the apprentice either.

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          Big Dave ‏@CrazyDaveKopite 10m

          Hillsborough inquests to be held in the North West #JFT96
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            @steve_graves 22m
            Full story in Echo shortly on Hillsborough inquests - to confirm, North West not London - no more specific than that.
            Rome wasn't built in a day, but it wasn't built by the apprentice either.

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              Unbroadcast film shows Hillsborough witness was right

              Crucial evidence from the 1989 Hillsborough football disaster, which was undermined at the original inquest, was true, BBC Panorama has found.

              An off-duty police officer has always maintained he tried to treat a dying boy after the time at which the coroner said no-one could have survived.

              His account cast doubt on medical evidence that supporters could not have survived beyond 15:15 on that day.

              Panorama's analysis of unbroadcast TV footage shows his account was true.

              Ninety-six football fans died after they were crushed to death on 15 April 1989 during an FA Cup semi-final between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest at Sheffield Wednesday's Hillsborough stadium.

              The inquest at the time resulted in verdicts of accidental death but, in December last year, the High Court quashed those verdicts and ordered fresh inquests to take place early next year.

              The TV footage seen by Panorama calls into question the response of the emergency services on the day.

              The Hillsborough Independent Panel's report into the disaster - published last year - analysed the medical evidence.

              It found that given proper treatment, more than half of the 96 fans who died, including the 15-year-old boy, Kevin Williams, might have had a chance of survival.

              Off-duty Merseyside police constable Derek Bruder, who tried to resuscitate Kevin, was one of those whose evidence was undermined at the inquest.

              The Hillsborough disaster was recorded by seven BBC Sport cameras, and a BBC news team, while the police had CCTV and a mobile camera unit.
              Kevin Williams Kevin Williams was 15 when he died

              The BBC footage was later released to the police and the families' lawyers but it was then locked away as it was considered too distressing for broadcast.

              Some 24 years on, Panorama has been able to analyse it.

              It shows how things went wrong from the start at Hillsborough and continued going wrong for longer than has ever been admitted.

              At 15:06, the football match was stopped as Liverpool fans escaping the overcrowded terraces ran onto the pitch.

              At 15:28, Kevin Williams was pulled out of gate three and laid on the pitch. Soon after, he was carried across it. A fan who tried to help him believes he was still alive.

              Steve Hart said: "I remember shouting to everyone to pick him up and get down there with him, you know, you're looking at people everywhere and you're thinking, obviously my instinct was this lad needs help."

              PC Bruder was photographed kneeling on the ground giving Kevin the kiss of life, but he was not sure at what time the photograph was taken. PC Bruder told Kevin's mother, Anne, how he had tried to help her son.

              "He told me then what he'd done for Kevin and I said 'Was my son alive?' and he said 'Well, if you say finding a pulse with the first two fingers... if that means he was alive, then he was alive'," she said in one of her last interviews before she died last month.

              But the coroner at the original inquest ruled that all those who died that day had been beyond help by 15:15.

              Doreen Jones: "I wanted to touch my son, I wanted to hold him"

              This decision meant the response of the emergency services was never properly investigated.

              A fleet of ambulances was parked outside the football ground, but crews and emergency equipment were not sent inside.

              Tony Edwards, who was on board one of the few ambulances that entered the ground, said: "I always think in terms of a rail accident. Could you imagine the public outcry if all ambulance crews remained on an embankment simply because they couldn't get the ambulance down to the scene of the accident?

              "That doesn't happen. They get out of their vehicles and if that's the length of a football pitch, they have to go, they make their way there."
              Ambulances on pitch

              PC Bruder said an ambulance was arriving and driving past as he treated Kevin, but he was not called to give evidence at the inquest.

              Instead his evidence was outlined to the coroner by a West Midlands police officer. He mentioned only two ambulances going onto the pitch, both before Kevin was carried to the end where PC Bruder tried to save him. As a result, PC Bruder's evidence was considered unreliable.

              But the footage analysed by Panorama shows that a third ambulance turned up after 15:30.

              Mr Edwards was the ambulance man in the third vehicle and said the West Midlands Police officers investigating the disaster knew this before PC Bruder's evidence was undermined at the inquest.

              "They had a video set up, they had photographs and they had laid out photographs as well and it was them who said to me, 'I want to show you your vehicle coming on the pitch at 3:35'," he said.

              The footage also shows the moment PC Bruder goes to help Kevin. It is after 15:30 and proves he had been right all along.

              PC Bruder has told Panorama he has now made a complaint to the Independent Police Complaints Commission about how his evidence was handled.

              West Midlands Police said it would co-operate with the IPCC and could not comment while inquiries continued.

              Yorkshire Ambulance Service NHS Trust said it would co-operate with any new legal inquiries.

              Watch the Panorama Special - Hillsborough: How They Buried The Truth on BBC One at 21:00 BST on Monday, 20 May.
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                I'd be really grateful if someone could get a copy of the Panorama Special online for us outside of the UK.
                Was muß, das muß.

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                  Originally posted by foresterbloke View Post
                  I'd be really grateful if someone could get a copy of the Panorama Special online for us outside of the UK.
                  It will be available on thebox.bz shortly after it has broadcast. If you haven't heard of it thebox is a private tracker torrrent site that uses share ratio to encourage people to share rather than grab and run. Great resource for UK produced TV.

                  I have an invite if you would like one. Just PM me an email address - not hotmail though as the invites never seem to get through.
                  Football without Origi is nothing

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                    Watching Panorama is horrible. I know what happened, I've read so much about it. But watching it play out on screen is harrowing.
                    *Except Michael, who died.

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                      Horrible isn't the word. Heartbreaking

                      JFT96

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                        Here is link if anyone needs it

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                          On sky 931 at 10:35 if anyone has missed it
                          The times they are a changin'.

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                            Never gets any less harrowing. Great work BBC.
                            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                              I have no idea how the families affected by all of this managed to continue and fight for justice in such a dignified manner.

                              Unbelievably tough to watch some of that

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                                I know it's been said many times, but Anne Williams was a truly inspirational woman.

                                RIP
                                That rug really tied the room together.

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