Sunderland - Post Match

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

Ashley Young

Massive exaggeration.. No dive

[Eric Swindler]

Pleased enough second half. Better response than I expected. Mentality is still weak and composure still lacking hugely

[Mattshark]

Creativity is seriously lacking, we all to rarely have the ball at our players feet in the box.

[kris90210]

I was/am one of them

I swear to god if he tries those pointless dribbles time and again, I will ****ing sell him and get Jovetic or Lewandowski or whoever the **** it is that knows how to finish chances first rather than just dribble for the heck of it.

Well I really do think you're being way, way too harsh on him. He's not dribbling for no reason - he's trying to make something happen. He's taking responsibility because it seems like if he doesn't create something, or if he doesn't score, no one else ****ing steps up to the mark.

He's got 7 in his last 11. 3 in 3 this season - a good return for someone who isn't the best of finishers. Before we start saying sell Suarez, we need to look at what the other players are doing in this team. Gerrard should be scoring more than he has been. Shelvey needs to chip in with goals. Borini certainly does. Sterling too. I realise that the last three are young players and it's going to take time, but you need to appreciate that in an attacking sense, we're almost a one man team at present.

I also think it's a bit silly to call for us to replace Suarez with either of those players you mentioned. Suarez has one of the highest dribbling success ratios in the league - I'd be surprised if it wasn't better or at the very least comparable with whatever Jovetic and Lewandowski have. Both of those players are class, and I'd love to see them come in, but to compliment Suarez, not to replace him. We desperately need to keep hold of our best attackers, and Suarez is by far our best attacker. It's not even close.

Seriously man, we're in for a long, frustrating season. I think we all need to brace ourselves for this, get behind the team and what the manager is trying to do.

[vonk]

Thought Sterling was outstanding. Hope he stays fit and sane!

Gerrard's delivery was very poor, but overall him Shelvey and Allen bossed midfield. Typical that we restrict them to one shot and they score. No clean sheets now in four.

Thought Kelly, Downing and Borini were very poor. Borini looks completely out of his depth. Can Morgan really be as bad as Borini?

Hopefully the german kid and morgan, and assaidi get to start vs young boys to show us what they can do.

[destinydude]

Well I really do think you're being way, way too harsh on him. He's not dribbling for no reason - he's trying to make something happen. He's taking responsibility because it seems like if he doesn't create something, or if he doesn't score, no one else ****ing steps up to the mark.

He's got 7 in his last 11. 3 in 3 this season - a good return for someone who isn't the best of finishers. Before we start saying sell Suarez, we need to look at what the other players are doing in this team. Gerrard should be scoring more than he has been. Shelvey needs to chip in with goals. Borini certainly does. Sterling too. I realise that the last three are young players and it's going to take time, but you need to appreciate that in an attacking sense, we're almost a one man team at present.

I also think it's a bit silly to call for us to replace Suarez with either of those players you mentioned. Suarez has one of the highest dribbling success ratios in the league - I'd be surprised if it wasn't better or at the very least comparable with whatever Jovetic and Lewandowski have. Both of those players are class, and I'd love to see them come in, but to compliment Suarez, not to replace him. We desperately need to keep hold of our best attackers, and Suarez is by far our best attacker. It's not even close.

Seriously man, we're in for a long, frustrating season. I think we all need to brace ourselves for this, get behind the team and what the manager is trying to do.

Oh pipe down

He could be and should be doing better than 7/11 with the kind of chances he is presented with. As for his dribbling, I was a fan until he started dribbling down blind alleys. He can pass a bit more or cross a bit more when he's playing wide.

Remember he scored close to a goal a game in his last full season at Ajax

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

Pleased enough second half. Better response than I expected. Mentality is still weak and composure still lacking hugely

This is key for me.

We play decent enough stuff, look calm on the ball. But as soon as we concede a goal we start to panic, lose a lot of shape, rush our passes and look completely out of sorts.

[kris90210]

Maybe, be he has been woeful this season. Poor touches and misplaced passes galore.

This season? What, all 3 games?

I think our fabled support should extend a little further than this.

[Exiled_red]

Thought Sterling was outstanding. Hope he stays fit and sane!

Gerrard's delivery was very poor, but overall him Shelvey and Allen bossed midfield. Typical that we restrict them to one shot and they score. No clean sheets now in four.

Thought Kelly, Downing and Borini were very poor. Borini looks completely out of his depth. Can Morgan really be as bad as Borini?

Hopefully the german kid and morgan, and assaidi get to start vs young boys to show us what they can do.

I didn't think Downing was that bad

[Kenneth]

This season? What, all 3 games?

I think our fabled support should extend a little further than this.

Well I agree. Of course we shouldn't be talking of getting rid, but we need to decide what to do because 3 yard toe pokes isn't making up for the number of times we break down when he gets it at the moment.

[kris90210]

Oh pipe down

He could be and should be doing better than 7/11 with the kind of chances he is presented with. As for his dribbling, I was a fan until he started dribbling down blind alleys. He can pass a bit more or cross a bit more when he's playing wide.

Remember he scored close to a goal a game in his last full season at Ajax

You can **** off with that patronising 'pipe down' comment

Look at all the players who have tore the up the Eredivise - Kuyt, Kezman, Alves... it's a different league! Clearly a weaker league too. Just because he scored almost 1 a game over there doesn't mean he will over here. Seriously, I can't believe I'm having to explain this.

7 in 11 is a great record in the premiership - you won't find many with better. The question is, can he sustain it?

[destinydude]

You can **** off with that patronising 'pipe down' comment

Look at all the players who have tore the up the Eredivise - Kuyt, Kezman, Alves... it's a different league! Clearly a weaker league too. Just because he scored almost 1 a game over there doesn't mean he will over here. Seriously, I can't believe I'm having to explain this.

7 in 11 is a great record in the premiership - you won't find many with better. The question is, can he sustain it?

Well only the original Ronaldo scored liek a goal a game and then it is Suarez.

The rest that you mentioned scored at 0.66 or so I guess.

To be frank, he's scoring off rebounds and tap-ins while missing perfectly good opportunities.

As a statistic 7/11 seems good but when you watch the games you clearly know that he isn't doing as well as 7/11 is suggesting. He should be doing better and I'll saying it again and again if need be.

[vlahka]

Disgusted at hearing the stupid commentators say 'Uncharacteristic mistake from Gerrard' _every_ match, like its some horrible surprise to them. Also **** off Downing.

[Maxiedge]

I thought johnsons was a definite pen but I was watching it on a poor stream so could be wrong

[kris90210]

Well I agree. Of course we shouldn't be talking of getting rid, but we need to decide what to do because 3 yard toe pokes isn't making up for the number of times we break down when he gets it at the moment.

I agree that his standards have dipped. I think he's probably trying to do 'too much' and I think there are obviously reasons for that (namely, no one else is contributing enough going forward).

All the same, I think if you look at the length of time Suarez has been here, you could probably count on one hand the number of bad games he's had for us (even when he's not at his best, he's still more effective than anyone else in the side). I just think it's pretty ridiculous seeing people being so reactionary towards him - I think this has become pretty endemic in modern football and I think that's a great shame.