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    Ffs. That wasn't me.
    Are we winning?

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      After spending the best part of 50 million on strikers (Tekkers, Ings, Origi) it really is ridiculous we are still so reliant on Sturridge.
      Last edited by captainfog; 28-09-15, 07:55 PM.
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        Chelsea spent 50 mil on one useless striker and relied on Drogba. Origi and Ings are for the future. Give them time FFS
        Go **** yourself

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          I also dont really think how much they cost means anything once they sign. The fact we rely on Sturridge still has no bearing on how much his backup/replacement costs.
          *Except Michael, who died.

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            Originally posted by gratziani View Post
            We look so more potent with two up top giving defenders double the problems

            Fingers crossed Daniel is back for good now.

            Brilliant goals for someone who has had months out
            who'd have thought hey? Brendan must of been the only person that didn't think 2 up top was worth trying. Even mad Mario would have looked better with a partner.
            Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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              Keep him away from The Boogey Man
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                Originally posted by Alex View Post
                I also dont really think how much they cost means anything once they sign. The fact we rely on Sturridge still has no bearing on how much his backup/replacement costs.
                When we spend £200m on players, then the manager cannot go on about needing the right tools. (The same manager who said about spurs that they should have been winning the league after spending £100m)

                In reality, we shouldn't be relying on Sturridge when we signed 4 other strikers in the last 13 months...... and the fact that we are still relying on DS just proves that we have purchased very very badly.

                Your opinion would be true if we were Man City. Where we could essentially spend whatever number we wanted and it doesnt matter if we spunk 28m on Bony who is terrible, 30m on Mangala who is terrible or 36m on Ottamendi who is terrible.

                But when Liverpool spend 50m on 3 clowns from Southampton, or 20m on a young winger from benfica and then play him left wing back, or 29m for a #10 when we already have a great #10 and then play him out on the right wing, then this is a poor use of resources.

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                  I just think after they sign for us their value becomes relevant until it comes to selling them.

                  Value doesnt = ability. So why does it come up in conversation when talking about our current squad? They are Liverpool players, so play the hand you have dealt yourself.
                  *Except Michael, who died.

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                    I was *so* against signing Sturridge.

                    Im an idiot.
                    The times they are a changin'.

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                      Originally posted by Alex View Post
                      I just think after they sign for us their value becomes relevant until it comes to selling them.

                      Value doesnt = ability. So why does it come up in conversation when talking about our current squad? They are Liverpool players, so play the hand you have dealt yourself.
                      Agree in the main, but when we have a limited budget, it matters as it prevents us from signing other players. Saying that, FFP is supposed to ensure the same applies to all

                      I think we, like all rich teams, overpay on virtually all transfers (relatively speaking) but for me, the cost isn't particularly important, it's the complete ****ing randomness of our signings that is the problem
                      I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
                      There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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                        Originally posted by Fierce View Post
                        Agree in the main, but when we have a limited budget, it matters as it prevents us from signing other players. Saying that, FFP is supposed to ensure the same applies to all

                        I think we, like all rich teams, overpay on virtually all transfers (relatively speaking) but for me, the cost isn't particularly important, it's the complete ****ing randomness of our signings that is the problem
                        Yep, its the lack of obvious strategy. Or when you think you spot it (Ings being a Sturridge back up) It isnt actually followed through with. So it doesnt make sense.
                        *Except Michael, who died.

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                          Originally posted by Boogs View Post
                          Chelsea spent 50 mil on one useless striker and relied on Drogba. Origi and Ings are for the future. Give them time FFS
                          Chelsea cocked up as well. His point stands. We can't accept failure because other clubs have also failed in that same area. It's like when we lost to West Ham, people saying it's okay because they also beat Arsenal. Or it's okay we've had a rubbish start because Chelsea have had a worse one.

                          This club is forever coming up with excuses as opposed to actions that take it forwards. I'm pretty sure if we lose in Europe it'll be because everyone else is and it's fine, after all the English league is tough etc.

                          Then if we lose to Everton, it'll be because we played midweek and after all they beat Chelsea 3-0 so it's not so bad. Constant failure, constant excuses.
                          Forwards.......

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                            Originally posted by Fierce View Post
                            Agree in the main, but when we have a limited budget, it matters as it prevents us from signing other players. Saying that, FFP is supposed to ensure the same applies to all

                            I think we, like all rich teams, overpay on virtually all transfers (relatively speaking) but for me, the cost isn't particularly important, it's the complete ****ing randomness of our signings that is the problem
                            Originally posted by Alex View Post
                            Yep, its the lack of obvious strategy. Or when you think you spot it (Ings being a Sturridge back up) It isnt actually followed through with. So it doesnt make sense.
                            Forwards.......

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                              Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                              Chelsea cocked up as well. His point stands. We can't accept failure because other clubs have also failed in that same area. It's like when we lost to West Ham, people saying it's okay because they also beat Arsenal. Or it's okay we've had a rubbish start because Chelsea have had a worse one.

                              This club is forever coming up with excuses as opposed to actions that take it forwards. I'm pretty sure if we lose in Europe it'll be because everyone else is and it's fine, after all the English league is tough etc.

                              Then if we lose to Everton, it'll be because we played midweek and after all they beat Chelsea 3-0 so it's not so bad. Constant failure, constant excuses.


                              We love an excuse. It's part of our culture these days. Look for reasons why we failed rather than solutions so we improve.

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                                Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                                Chelsea cocked up as well. His point stands. We can't accept failure because other clubs have also failed in that same area. It's like when we lost to West Ham, people saying it's okay because they also beat Arsenal. Or it's okay we've had a rubbish start because Chelsea have had a worse one.

                                This club is forever coming up with excuses as opposed to actions that take it forwards. I'm pretty sure if we lose in Europe it'll be because everyone else is and it's fine, after all the English league is tough etc.

                                Then if we lose to Everton, it'll be because we played midweek and after all they beat Chelsea 3-0 so it's not so bad. Constant failure, constant excuses.
                                We shouldn't be offering / accepting these as excuses, if players want to be successful, they will have to play multiple games in a week and travel etc. If they can't handle that then they shouldn't be here IMO. Similarly our standards should be judged by ourselves and not what other teams do. An LFC side should not lost 3-0 at home to West Ham regardless of who else West Ham may beat.
                                The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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