Daniel Sturridge

[Fierce]

Well, time & time again anyone has the temerity to question anything at the club gets jumped on & trounced & called clueless & morons etc. Then when there's a reaction to consistently being simplistically pigeon-holed, they get slated. No reasoned discussion, no grey opinions allowed, lumped straight in a negative player-insulting, lunatic fringe window licking bin. Plenty of people are positive around here & don't behave in a manner of a handful that for me ruin the lfc forum.

Tbh, I'm just gonna **** off back to the chat & general footy threads, reasoned debate is clearly not welcome here. If you're not relentlessly positive, you're the footballing antichrist to some.

I mean, you come across as a smart bloke, you surely realize the monumental irony of posting this?





Anyway. Sturridge

I'm not a doctor, so I don't know whats wrong and therefore, can't automatically assume that he is refusing to play for no discernible reason

I think, assuming he's not actually made of plywood, that he would be perfect in a Klopp team, so I can understand the caution.

[Fredo]

I know you just googled that! you also miss the irony in the use of Comprendez that us English use... well the ones who understand the irony at least

Well no as my native tongue is French. French speakers don't do irony the English way.

[Nicey]

A few are, we've had the "I'm leaving" flounce, and the bahhh I abuse the players but dont you dare say anything back to me victims.

Seeing things differently? Nah. Abusing one of our best players for little reason? Yes.

I havent said one word against the ones saying sell him or whatever. We are not getting value for money from him and there is definitely a discussion to be had on what to do with him. I'm laughing at the people abusing him, saying how unprofessional he is and the apparent ****load of psychiatrists we now have who know exactly whats going on in the fella's head despite having never even met him and him having barely even given an interview in 6 months! All based on an injury that not one person on here knows what it is!

Can anyone on here name the injury? The actual injury? Not "foot injury" or "not serious" but the actual injury? No. Exactly. And yet we've got a load of people doing psychiatric evaluations and throwing abuse at him based on it. It's laughable and these people are morons.

Even if there is a mental problem there I dont think it's that radical a guy who's had so many injuries is a bit panicky when pain pops up. But I'm a superfan and would rather support him than abuse him for it.

I hear you, but honestly mate, they are not morons .. many people within the game have alluded to this about Sturridge for some time, these subtle suggestions are becoming louder and louder of late and now we have fans openly discussing it .. its not beyond the pale, an ex old player from the club said as much in a recent interview, coupled with the boss's line on having to know pain and serious pain .. its a very easy connection to make ... my own assertion throughout this is either way I don't know .. but what I do know is now its got to the stage were its truly a serious issue, so serious that I would suggest we start thinking about life post Sturridge because unless he puts in a solid 6 months of just being fit let alone scoring goals I really cannot see him being here in the summer. Also we both know, when you are getting into it with someone online posting is not conducive to any kind of reasonable debate ..we may rub each other up the wrong way from time to time, but we are all Liverpool Fans here .. well most of us are anyway

[cream]

Blood Red: If Sturridge wants to join Liverpool FC elite, he must do what they did and put his body on the line
05:00, 28 NOV 2015
BY JAMES PEARCE
James Pearce says the striker's talent has never been in question, but his mentality is


Liverpool's Daniel Sturridge celebrates grabbing his second and his side's third goal against Aston Villa in the Premier League at Anfield. Photo by James Maloney

Jurgen Klopp knew what was coming. There was only one place for his press conference at Melwood to start.

It’s become a depressingly familiar theme - the Liverpool manager asked to provide the latest bulletin on the well-being of a gifted but desperately fragile striker.


An issue which dogged the last 18 months of Brendan Rodgers’ reign has now become Klopp’s problem and here was the first sign of the German’s patience being stretched by the continued absence of Daniel Sturridge.

Klopp spoke about Sturridge needing to “learn what is serious pain or what is only pain” after he pulled out of his planned comeback against Bordeaux on Thursday night.

The 26-year-old frontman had trained normally in the morning and travelled to the team hotel before complaining of discomfort in his foot. As a result he was removed from the squad and sent for a scan.

Klopp was giving little away about those results at Melwood on Friday but his admission that Sturridge’s latest issue is “not that serious” was telling.

That was also the assessment of the Reds’ medical staff when Sturridge suffered bruising to his knee after a training ground collision with Jordon Ibe on the eve of Klopp’s first game in charge at Tottenham last month.

Klopp talked about his absence in the capital being purely precautionary but he has since learned that there is no such thing as a minor knock where the England international is concerned.

It’s now eight weeks since Sturridge last pulled on a Liverpool shirt. He has featured in just three of the Reds’ last 28 matches in all competitions.

All that talk back in the summer about the hip surgery he underwent in New York and the subsequent rehabilitation programme with staff at the Boston Red Sox curing his array of ailments proved misplaced.

Liverpool’s American owners went to great trouble and expense to ensure Sturridge had the best of everything during his spell Stateside. They left no stone unturned in their bid to help him recapture the heights he hit in 2013/14 when his 24-goal haul fired the Reds agonisingly close to the Premier League crown.


A more robust Sturridge was supposed to ride to the rescue on his return in September but the hope generated by his classy double against Aston Villa didn’t last.

It’s been Klopp rather than Sturridge who has transformed the Reds’ season. It’s been achieved with Christian Benteke, Roberto Firmino and Philippe Coutinho providing the firepower.

Whether it’s a case of his body letting him down or simply being a bona fide hypochondriac, Sturridge is in serious danger of being left behind.

His quality isn’t in doubt but his mentality most certainly is. Some will argue that his availability should just be regarded a bonus but that belies the fact he’s the club’s highest earner on around £150,000 per week.

You don’t pay someone that kind of cash for the occasional guest appearance. When Sturridge penned that lucrative deal 13 months ago he spoke about one day joining Anfield’s pantheon of legends.

He name-checked Kop icons Kenny Dalglish, Ian Rush and Robbie Fowler. That cherished trio weren’t just blessed with remarkable talent but also repeatedly put their bodies on the line for the cause.

If Sturridge is serious about joining that kind of company he needs to start doing likewise for Klopp.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/blood-red-sturridge-wants-join-10517192

[G]

This ****ing thread

[Nicey]

Blood Red: If Sturridge wants to join Liverpool FC elite, he must do what they did and put his body on the line
05:00, 28 NOV 2015
BY JAMES PEARCE
James Pearce says the striker's talent has never been in question, but his mentality is


Liverpool's Daniel Sturridge celebrates grabbing his second and his side's third goal against Aston Villa in the Premier League at Anfield. Photo by James Maloney

Jurgen Klopp knew what was coming. There was only one place for his press conference at Melwood to start.

It’s become a depressingly familiar theme - the Liverpool manager asked to provide the latest bulletin on the well-being of a gifted but desperately fragile striker.


An issue which dogged the last 18 months of Brendan Rodgers’ reign has now become Klopp’s problem and here was the first sign of the German’s patience being stretched by the continued absence of Daniel Sturridge.

Klopp spoke about Sturridge needing to “learn what is serious pain or what is only pain” after he pulled out of his planned comeback against Bordeaux on Thursday night.

The 26-year-old frontman had trained normally in the morning and travelled to the team hotel before complaining of discomfort in his foot. As a result he was removed from the squad and sent for a scan.

Klopp was giving little away about those results at Melwood on Friday but his admission that Sturridge’s latest issue is “not that serious” was telling.

That was also the assessment of the Reds’ medical staff when Sturridge suffered bruising to his knee after a training ground collision with Jordon Ibe on the eve of Klopp’s first game in charge at Tottenham last month.

Klopp talked about his absence in the capital being purely precautionary but he has since learned that there is no such thing as a minor knock where the England international is concerned.

It’s now eight weeks since Sturridge last pulled on a Liverpool shirt. He has featured in just three of the Reds’ last 28 matches in all competitions.

All that talk back in the summer about the hip surgery he underwent in New York and the subsequent rehabilitation programme with staff at the Boston Red Sox curing his array of ailments proved misplaced.

Liverpool’s American owners went to great trouble and expense to ensure Sturridge had the best of everything during his spell Stateside. They left no stone unturned in their bid to help him recapture the heights he hit in 2013/14 when his 24-goal haul fired the Reds agonisingly close to the Premier League crown.


A more robust Sturridge was supposed to ride to the rescue on his return in September but the hope generated by his classy double against Aston Villa didn’t last.

It’s been Klopp rather than Sturridge who has transformed the Reds’ season. It’s been achieved with Christian Benteke, Roberto Firmino and Philippe Coutinho providing the firepower.

Whether it’s a case of his body letting him down or simply being a bona fide hypochondriac, Sturridge is in serious danger of being left behind.

His quality isn’t in doubt but his mentality most certainly is. Some will argue that his availability should just be regarded a bonus but that belies the fact he’s the club’s highest earner on around £150,000 per week.

You don’t pay someone that kind of cash for the occasional guest appearance. When Sturridge penned that lucrative deal 13 months ago he spoke about one day joining Anfield’s pantheon of legends.

He name-checked Kop icons Kenny Dalglish, Ian Rush and Robbie Fowler. That cherished trio weren’t just blessed with remarkable talent but also repeatedly put their bodies on the line for the cause.

If Sturridge is serious about joining that kind of company he needs to start doing likewise for Klopp.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport...-join-10517192

James Pearce is a ****ing Moron

[redmike65]

This should also be noted

All that talk back in the summer about the hip surgery he underwent in New York and the subsequent rehabilitation programme with staff at the Boston Red Sox curing his array of ailments proved misplaced.

Liverpool’s American owners went to great trouble and expense to ensure Sturridge had the best of everything during his spell Stateside. They left no stone unturned in their bid to help him recapture the heights he hit in 2013/14 when his 24-goal haul fired the Reds agonisingly close to the Premier League crown.

the club have done everything possible for him

[Nicey]

This should also be noted



the club have done everything possible for him

Of course they have, lets not forget world famous sports psychologist Prof Steve Peters has also tried everything with him as well and he is one of the very best in the business ..

He pulls out of a game and scans come back saying hes fine and somehow fans who suggest he needs to man up are out of touch loons ?

[Chris]

Good old James Pearce, delivers as usual. "Whether it’s a case of his body letting him down or simply being a bona fide hypochondriac" ie he doesn't know but whines on about his mentality anyway. Wonder what his username on here is?

[Gibbo]

There has to be some sort of mental aspect to it though. Even if it's the case of him wanting to be 100% before he plays. You compare it to someone like Suarez who'd probably try and carry on running if his leg had been cut off, but he came with the violent side, which noone argued was mental.

I think the frustration with Sturridge is understandable he's arguably our best player, he's on a very high wage, and people just want to see him play. Especially when you can even see the frustration with Klopp.

[cream]

There has to be some sort of mental aspect to it though. Even if it's the case of him wanting to be 100% before he plays. You compare it to someone like Suarez who'd probably try and carry on running if his leg had been cut off, but he came with the violent side, which noone argued was mental.

I think the frustration with Sturridge is understandable he's arguably our best player, he's on a very high wage, and people just want to see him play. Especially when you can even see the frustration with Klopp.

[Nicey]

So David Fairclough, James Pearce .. myself numerous other posters in here .. all morons for suggesting he might be mentally weak Daniel himself said he may suffer from a genetic weakness which makes him more susceptible to injury.....

All nonsense I suppose

[Chris]

There has to be some sort of mental aspect to it though. Even if it's the case of him wanting to be 100% before he plays. You compare it to someone like Suarez who'd probably try and carry on running if his leg had been cut off, but he came with the violent side, which noone argued was mental.

I think the frustration with Sturridge is understandable he's arguably our best player, he's on a very high wage, and people just want to see him play. Especially when you can even see the frustration with Klopp.

Could well be, I'm frustrated too, just dont really see the need for him to be called every name under the sun and it declared how unprofessional he is because of it. And even if it's true I'm not sure why it's worthy of so much ridicule, I think it's understandable given his history, just like it was understandable when Cisse got back after his leg break he spent the first few games ****ting out of tackles.

[Chris]

Anyway Chris .. I am literally too old for this silly bollix I apologize for my madness

And yet still going.

James Pearce is a ****ing Moron

And still going.

So David Fairclough, James Pearce .. myself numerous other posters in here .. all morons for suggesting he might be mentally weak Daniel himself said he may suffer from a genetic weakness which makes him more susceptible to injury.....

All nonsense I suppose

[EwarWoo]

There has to be some sort of mental aspect to it though. Even if it's the case of him wanting to be 100% before he plays.

I think he's just scared of getting inured again and being out for a long time. But I'm guessing as much as anyone.

It must get to you being sat on the sideline injured for so long. If it didn't then he would have attitude issues.