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    Originally posted by G View Post
    I wouldn't sell him. Even at 3 games a season he's miles better than anything else we have.
    I've heard this argument many times before, and I really don't understand it? How can Sturridge available for 9 points be better than a slightly inferior striker available for say 90?
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      Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
      It's similar to Van Persie when he was at Arsenal, crippled by injuries then he went to United who got him fit and he won them the league.

      I'm not saying we'll win the league with him but his goals will move us up the table quickly. In this league a good goalscorer is invaluable - Aguero, Kane, Vardy, Ighalo are the reason why their respective teams are doing so well.

      We need to spend as long as it takes getting him fit and then we'll reap the rewards.
      I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
      There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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        Originally posted by tanner View Post
        I've heard this argument many times before, and I really don't understand it? How can Sturridge available for 9 points be better than a slightly inferior striker available for say 90?
        As it is, he's as about as useful to LFC as myself. I think he future as a Liverpool player is getting more bleak by the month. We'll see in the summer, he's fantastic on the pitch but if he only plays 9 games a season he's no use.
        * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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          3 games, not 9 Either way though.....

          Vietto has been linked by disreputable sauces in teh last day, now that's who we need in for Sturridge

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            Originally posted by redmike65 View Post
            3 games, not 9 Either way though.....

            Vietto has been linked by disreputable sauces in teh last day, now that's who we need in for Sturridge
            I'm hoping he manages another six games til the summer
            * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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              Originally posted by redmike65 View Post
              Vietto has been linked by disreputable sauces in teh last day, now that's who we need in for Sturridge
              The Vietto with the same appearances, yet a quarter of the goals of the man he's going to replace?
              I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
              There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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                Originally posted by tanner View Post
                I've heard this argument many times before, and I really don't understand it? How can Sturridge available for 9 points be better than a slightly inferior striker available for say 90?
                Because it's not one OR the other. You can have both, Sturridge and an inferior striker and I don't care how much we pay him when he's injured, it's not my money! If we can get a striker as good as him you could let him go but I haven't seen anybody who says we should sell him tell me who we can get to replace him that will actually come here and who is as good as Sturridge. And even if we got someone as good as him I'd still keep him cos we saw what a fit and firing Sturridge and Suarez did for each others games, it made them both want to do better and be top dog. As I said last night we've systematically stripped all the top earners/quality out of the squad over a period of time and not adequately replaced them and our league position most years reflects that. If we can't replace him adequately and have to make do with the likes of Benteke then I'd keep him cos while Benteke and the rest of them labour to get us points when Studge isn't fit then when he is fit he will instantly join them in the team and make us miles better. However often that is it's worth it. For example, without his goals this season we wouldn't be on the verge of the final of a cup, we were very much labouring against Southampton until he did his thing. Those things are worth it.

                Simple really.
                Last edited by G; 11-01-16, 06:55 PM.

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                  Originally posted by G View Post
                  Because it's not one OR the other. You can have both, Sturridge and an inferior striker and I don't care how much we pay him when he's injured, it's not my money! If we can get a striker as good as him you could let him go but I haven't seen anybody who says we should sell him tell me who we can get to replace him that will actually come here and who is as good as Sturridge. And even if we got someone as good as him I'd still keep him cos we saw what a fit and firing Sturridge and Suarez did for each others games, it made them both want to do better and be top dog. As I said last night we've systematically stripped all the top earners/quality out of the squad over a period of time and not adequately replaced them and our league position most years reflects that. If we can't replace him adequately and have to make do with the likes of Benteke then I'd keep him cos while Benteke and the rest of them labour to get us points when Studge isn't fit then when he is fit he will instantly join them in the team and make us miles better. However often that is it's worth it. For example, without his goals this season we wouldn't be on the verge of the final of a cup, we were very much labouring against Southampton until he did his thing. Those things are worth it.

                  Simple really.
                  Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."


                  Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.

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                    Originally posted by G View Post
                    Because it's not one OR the other. You can have both, Sturridge and an inferior striker and I don't care how much we pay him when he's injured, it's not my money! If we can get a striker as good as him you could let him go but I haven't seen anybody who says we should sell him tell me who we can get to replace him that will actually come here and who is as good as Sturridge. And even if we got someone as good as him I'd still keep him cos we saw what a fit and firing Sturridge and Suarez did for each others games, it made them both want to do better and be top dog. As I said last night we've systematically stripped all the top earners/quality out of the squad over a period of time and not adequately replaced them and our league position most years reflects that. If we can't replace him adequately and have to make do with the likes of Benteke then I'd keep him cos while Benteke and the rest of them labour to get us points when Studge isn't fit then when he is fit he will instantly join them in the team and make us miles better. However often that is it's worth it. For example, without his goals this season we wouldn't be on the verge of the final of a cup, we were very much labouring against Southampton until he did his thing. Those things are worth it.

                    Simple really.
                    Who we replace him with is not of our concern, its not our job. We have to respect Klopp's judgement and believe that he will be replaced by someone who Jurgen believes will be better suited to his system AND be available for the majority of the games we play.

                    At the moment Danny's £150k (or whatever it is a week) is being taken into consideration in regards to current transfer potential, its an ongoing outlay we are laboured with for very little return.

                    You say he's got us on the verge of a minor cup final, I say his absence has cost us a shot at the top 4 and european football this season and success of any sort over the last.
                    Last edited by tanner; 11-01-16, 07:44 PM.
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                      I agree about relying on Klopp and his judgement however the stories of us looking to move him on comes from a piece written in the Mirror.

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                        Originally posted by tanner View Post
                        Who we replace him with is not of our concern, its not our job. We have to respect Klopp's judgement and believe that he will be replaced by someone who Jurgen believes will be better suited to his system AND be available for the majority of the games we play.

                        At the moment Danny's £150k (or whatever it is a week) is being taken into consideration in regards to current transfer potential, its an ongoing outlay we are laboured with for very little return.

                        You say he's got us on the verge of a minor cup final, I say his absence has cost us a shot at the top 4 and european football this season and success of any sort over the last.
                        He doesn't need to be replaced, he needs to be supplemented with better quality and then our whole seasons won't come down to whether he's fit or not. I don't give two ****s if the club is getting value for money for the money they pay him, its not my money.

                        You are right, not having him has cost us, cos hes that good. But its not his fault it cost us. Its the clubs previous management and current owners/transfer structures fault its cost us cos they tried to supplement/replace him with a £32.5m statue, which goes to show its not bloody easy replacing quality like his. When you have it, you are far better off keeping it and trying to get it on the pitch.

                        If he ends up being replaced and the replacement is as good or better then great, that's what we all want. I'd still keep him around unless we sign two players of that quality. Squad depth and quality is what we want, not 11 good players.
                        Last edited by G; 11-01-16, 09:37 PM.

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                          We should have bought this instead. At least we could have sold it quickly -

                          Was muß, das muß.

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                            Originally posted by G View Post
                            and then our whole seasons won't come down to whether he's fit or not.
                            So if we reach this point where he doesn't effect our season what's the point of him being here?

                            He can't even be back-up for injuries and resting players as he can't be relied upon to be fit when needed, he gets injured in training as well as in games.

                            Without any kind of fitness he's an utterly pointless luxury player or a liability, depending on if he's replaced or not.

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                              Originally posted by EwarWoo View Post
                              So if we reach this point where he doesn't effect our season what's the point of him being here?

                              He can't even be back-up for injuries and resting players as he can't be relied upon to be fit when needed, he gets injured in training as well as in games.

                              Without any kind of fitness he's an utterly pointless luxury player or a liability, depending on if he's replaced or not.
                              We don't care if he's a luxury. We'd like luxuries like that. If the club had bought better the pressure to get him fit wouldn't have been as big.
                              Are we winning?

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                                Paying a guy 150k a week on the off chance he might be able to rouse himself into playing shape. luxurious

                                Thats a luxury very few can afford.

                                Your argument that he would've been afforded more time to get fit if we bought better is moot.

                                He hasn't put in the work to get himself fit. He's had muscle injuries. A very common injury. Its not like he's broken legs or ruptured achilles or torn tendons in knees. Terrible injuries I'm sure you'll admit. He's continually tearing/straining muscles.
                                He's been given plenty of time and like clockwork breaks down. Its a sign he simply doesn't put in the work to strengthen himself, Klopps alluded to it multiple times. People with inside sources within the club (with great track records) say the same. He's lazy as **** and a total pansy. Look at his career path. In and out repeatedly. Look at what his peers have said about his lack of desire or commitment.

                                But sure, give him more time to get fit. It not your money being pissed up the wall is it.

                                Klopps doing the right thing now. He's not going to let Storage dictate when he's ok to play. He's making him work harder than he ever has before…and he'll get his chance when Klopp feels he's earned it. No matter how much we need a player of his quality, because as much as i can't stand the ****, he's a brilliant player when playing.

                                Maybe Klopp's tough love might work, but i doubt it. Storage will be flogged off in the summer after he suddenly springs to action just before the Euro's so he wins a spot….only to get injured once there like usual.
                                "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                                "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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