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    #16
    Originally posted by red g
    he is human and made mistakes, the problem with the money is that he is always being forced to compromise. He wanted Alves and got Pennant. If he had the money would have bought Kuyt sooner. and again Aurelio and Zenden on free....if we had real money doubt either of these would have been bought
    That's Rafa's choice though.

    He could've kept Cisse, Pongolle or both and spent the 15m spunked on Pennant and Bellamy on a FIRST CHOICE player of genuine quality and attacking threat.

    Like Alves, Lennon or Ludovic Guily ?

    Nobody's forcing Rafa to buy second rate players.
    Last edited by anfieldanfield; 13-11-06, 10:33 AM.

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      #17
      Can't believe the bollocks in this thread.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Tom
        Can't believe the bollocks in this thread.
        Me too, there's some ****ing naive people on these forums if the general belief is that we haven't won the league because we haven't had enough money to spend.

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          #19
          Originally posted by anfieldanfield
          That's Rafa's choice though.

          He could've kept Cisse, Pongolle or both and spent the 15m spunked on Pennant and Bellamy on a FIRST CHOICE player of genuine quality and attacking threat.

          Like Alves, Lennon or Ludovic Guily ?

          Nobody's forcing Rafa to buy second rate players.how many second rate players has Rafa BOUGHT?
          Guily rejected us, and why is everyone so sure that Alves would be a success? He is small, and he isnt the best tackler.....i'd have reservations about him aswell if we were spending 12mill on him. Ive watched him alot and im not so sure he would be a wise purchase

          Kuyt is streets ahead of Cisse in quality, Pongolle was useless the majority of the time. Bellamy started well, he hasn't got into the swing of things since coming back from injury, and he scored a goal last night....whcih souldnt have been ruled off. Pennant is truly crap, once he makes a mistake he ****ing hides for the rest of the game.....it is seriously doing my head in. He looked good last season for Brum, but he just doesnt have the character to play for us.
          "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

          "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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            #20
            Your figures are highly selective as they don't account for outgoing players. They also don't account for context. Year on year we aren't anywhere near utd or chelski financially. On the whole the richest clubs win the league. When was the last time that arsenal won it?

            If not Rafa then who? It's easy to slag the manager off but i don't think anyone else could have done any better.

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              #21
              Pennant is truly crap, once he makes a mistake he ****ing hides for the rest of the game.....it is seriously doing my head in. He looked good last season for Brum, but he just doesnt have the character to play for us.
              maybe the brummies supported him?
              Its times like these we learn to live again FF

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                #22
                Originally posted by Tom
                Your figures are highly selective as they don't account for outgoing players. They also don't account for context. Year on year we aren't anywhere near utd or chelski financially. On the whole the richest clubs win the league. When was the last time that arsenal won it?

                If not Rafa then who? It's easy to slag the manager off but i don't think anyone else could have done any better.
                This summer we spent much, much more cash than Man Utd, who just about broke even after the sales of RVN and Obe Mikel. Only Chelsea spent more than us during the summer, yet we're 9th in the table....

                The buck stops with the manager Tom, he's bought very poorly indeed.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by anfieldanfield
                  This summer we spent much, much more cash than Man Utd, who just about broke even after the sales of RVN and Obe Mikel. Only Chelsea spent more than us during the summer, yet we're 9th in the table....

                  The buck stops with the manager Tom, he's bought very poorly indeed.


                  hahaha...16mill for a kid who was playing in the Norwegian league and had never played a game for them. Thats whats wrong with football today
                  "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                  "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by redlancer
                    maybe the brummies supported him?

                    no one on here has supported him more than me buddy

                    i gave him my full support...until he hid against Utd. He did it again yesterday. He has almost lost me.
                    "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                    "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                      #25
                      If Rafa had only bought one or two quality players people would be having a go at him for having a small squad. I´m prepared to give him three more years, the fixture calendar hasn´t been kind to us either, it´s just the roll of the dice. If we hadn´t gotten these difficult away games now and had played Charlton and Fulham maybe and won them things would be looking different. We would still probably lose against Chelsea, the Arse and ManU on the road but there wouldn´t be such an uproar.
                      * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by anfieldanfield
                        This summer we spent much, much more cash than Man Utd, who just about broke even after the sales of RVN and Obe Mikel. Only Chelsea spent more than us during the summer, yet we're 9th in the table....

                        The buck stops with the manager Tom, he's bought very poorly indeed.
                        The previous year they spunked 30 million on rooney though plus other players. We can't get near them financially and you know that. It's all very well slagging people off for not buying good enough players but you need the money to do that - which we haven't got.

                        Seriously - who would you have instead of Benitez, because I don't see anyone in world football capable of producing the miracles that you seem to think are possible on the budgets we run on.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Tom
                          The previous year they spunked 30 million on rooney though plus other players. We can't get near them financially and you know that. It's all very well slagging people off for not buying good enough players but you need the money to do that - which we haven't got.

                          Seriously - who would you have instead of Benitez, because I don't see anyone in world football capable of producing the miracles that you seem to think are possible on the budgets we run on.
                          There's no point discussing this any further Tom.

                          I think 80 million pounds spent in three years is more than enough to challenge for the title, you dont.

                          Fair enough.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by anfieldanfield
                            There's no point discussing this any further Tom.

                            I think 80 million pounds spent in three years is more than enough to challenge for the title, you dont.

                            Fair enough.
                            80million to buy a premiership winning squad hmmmm???!!!

                            well chelsea spent 200million +
                            Scum spent that on Ferdinand, Rooney and Carrick

                            Bollocks man

                            Our team needed a complete overhaul......80million drop in the 'fin ocean
                            _____________________________________

                            Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

                            Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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                              #29
                              This squad is capable of winning the league. It's just the away form that needs to be sorted. Sami has had his day and Agger should be played in central defence alongside Carra as his passing is way much better than Sami. We need to retain the ball, not losing it via silly passes from the back.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by anfieldanfield
                                There's no point discussing this any further Tom.

                                I think 80 million pounds spent in three years is more than enough to challenge for the title, you dont.

                                Fair enough.

                                yes but the problem we have got is the "Champions league winners" stigma, when we put in bids for clubs they try screw us over for more cash, thinking we must be filthy rich. Sure we have spent alot, but Chelsea have inflated the market, and it seems any young players we are interested in, they also have interest in. Case in point SWP. They bought him for 15mill more than he was worth to stop us from getting him.


                                football is screwed until Chelsea crumble
                                "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                                "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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