Hull City Post match thread

[Sarb]

I was thinking the same thing on players. We've got about £60m worth of players who don't even play. I'll be ****ed off if Sakho isn't getting picked due to some issue and not getting Big ****ing Ash. That will be absolute joke. Ashley Williams is ****ing wank

Sakho should be playing in the back 4. It's as simple as that

[Lee]

I see Rodgers is blaming a lack of quality.

I hate to say this but he's the one who's spunked millions on players who aren't playing. £17m Sakho, £15m Allen, £11m Borini, £7m Aspas, £7m Alberto. £57m right there.

Don't forget Ilori

The £64 million question!

Rodgers needs to shoulder much of the blame for yesterday, there was no balance in defence, the midfield was generally poor, while it is all well and good playing with two wingers (who were both terrible on the day) but if your sole striker is one that does his own thing and likes to drop deep there's little point in playing the both of them - they had no-one in the middle to aim for.

A back four of Johnson - Toure - Skrtel - Flanagan.

Ouch. That's a heck of a lot of money for players who've had little or no impact so far.

Time to see if Agger and Sakho can play together.

[Sarb]

Ouch. That's a heck of a lot of money for players who've had little or no impact so far.

Time to see if Agger and Sakho can play together.

There has been no justification for keeping the back 4 intact this season. Toure should not have played. Skrtel is a strange one. I thought he did okay. But Sakho absolutely has to play. The fact he isn't is quite worrying.

If Rodgers continues to play the likes of Moses ahead of players we've spent £8m odd on (for example) then I don't think he will get much to spend in Jan and he probably will be moved on in the summer

[Maxiedge]

I can see why he picked the team he did yesterday ; in theory that was the right team to play but that performance has been brewing for a while.

Skrtel has been superficially our best defender this season. I still think he's quite a nervous defender and his indecisiveness will always cost us.

Henderson, I'm just not a fan of. I think he's Dirk Kuyt lite but maybe a bit quicker. Again, he's quite a nervous footballer whose confidence levels are too erratic imo.

Moses was shocking. So was Toure. I thought Sterling was actually ok, not bad. He at least tried to be a bit more direct.

The rest just underperformed.

[Sarb]

I can see why he picked the team he did yesterday ; in theory that was the right team to play but that performance has been brewing for a while.

Skrtel has been superficially our best defender this season. I still think he's quite a nervous defender and his indecisiveness will always cost us.

Henderson, I'm just not a fan of. I think he's Dirk Kuyt lite but maybe a bit quicker. Again, he's quite a nervous footballer whose confidence levels are too erratic imo.

Moses was shocking. So was Toure. I thought Sterling was actually ok, not bad. He at least tried to be a bit more direct.

The rest just underperformed.

Do you know what. I can understand why Agger was dropped after the Derby. His defending was lazy at times. But for the life of me, I just can't understand why Toure was picked. He was never really that good at City and I was annoyed at the thought that he'd be our only CB signing. Yeah he has experience, but he just isn't that good.

We then move Skrtel to LCB to accommodate Toure. Why not bring in Sakho who is a natural LCB anyway. I just find it really bizarre, the logic behind it.

I also think when Coutinho was out that Alberto should have started. When else is he going to play? Hull are relegation fodder and he should be able to get a game against them.

For me, the concern is Rodgers would rather play the likes of Toure and Moses who cost a sum of £1m instead of two players we shelled out £25m odd on who play in those positions.

And it's the underperforming that ****s me off. They only play once a week. It was a disgusting performance.

[Lecter]

I dont like swapping the players in your defensive unit week in week out unless you actually have to

Part of defending is working together as a unit and constant changing of the personnel isnt condusive to putting together a cohesive unit

[Lee]

There has been no justification for keeping the back 4 intact this season. Toure should not have played. Skrtel is a strange one. I thought he did okay. But Sakho absolutely has to play. The fact he isn't is quite worrying.

Our defence has been worrying at times this season.

Johnson is our only fit RB. It's a shame Kelly can't sort himself out as he'd be excellent competition - Johnson has looked poor recently.
Toure started off well and has only really had two poor games - Arsenal and Hull. Should probably be third or fourth choice.
Skrtel is a weird one indeed. Sometimes he looks a beast and other times he's awful.
Agger I still think is our best CB. Got to play.
Sakho has looked good and we paid £17m for him so he has to play.
Enrique has had his critics but I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as he's made out to be.
Flanagan deserved a start yesterday after his performance in the derby. Is he good enough long-term? We'll see.
Cissokho = ****.
Robinson is decent. It'll be interesting to see what happens in the future with him.
Widsom won't make it as a RB but if he spends a season or two at Derby playing CB then he could make a decent career in the game.
Ilori and Coates... erm. Hmm.

[G]

I dont like swapping the players in your defensive unit week in week out unless you actually have to

Part of defending is working together as a unit and constant changing of the personnel isnt condusive to putting together a cohesive unit

Said this yesterday. We need to pick our defence as we see it for the long term and play it week in week out, even if that means dropping the form player at the moment because he's not part of the long term.

[Sarb]

I dont like swapping the players in your defensive unit week in week out unless you actually have to

Part of defending is working together as a unit and constant changing of the personnel isnt condusive to putting together a cohesive unit

I agree with that. Agger came in for 2 games and back out. I don't think he is that good a defender though and I don't think Johnson is either. I think they're both pretty lazy and cost us a fair few goals. But why spend £17m on a CB then not pick him? Bizarre

[Maxiedge]

The change in defensive personnel has been due to injuries (Toure, Johnson, Enrique and Agger). There hasn't been enough of a chance to create a consistent back four.

Going on form, Skrtel and Toure would be our best partnership but both are liabilities imo.

The good news is we have quality in Agger and Sakho to come in.

[Lecter]

As I mentioned above if you have to make enforce changes in your back four then that is fine

But I'm sure I heard in one of the post match interviews that Agger was fit and that Toure was brought in for tactical reasons (to cope with Hulls physical presence)

I'm not sure I'm fond of switching players in and out of the defence based on that basis

[Sarb]

As I mentioned above if you have to make enforce changes in your back four then that is fine

But I'm sure I heard in one of the post match interviews that Agger was fit and that Toure was brought in for tactical reasons (to cope with Hulls physical presence)

I'm not sure I'm fond of switching players in and out of the defence based on that basis

[Buzzo]

I see Rodgers is blaming a lack of quality.

I hate to say this but he's the one who's spunked millions on players who aren't playing. £17m Sakho, £15m Allen, £11m Borini, £7m Aspas, £7m Alberto. £57m right there.

We have paid a lot for mediocrity over the last 3-4 years that's for sure, we have a decent first XI but nobody to cover if we get an injury. We look paper thin with out Sturridge. Even though he is gash (see his miss on Sat) surely we needed Borini to hang about as a number 3 striker?

[Buzzo]

As I mentioned above if you have to make enforce changes in your back four then that is fine

But I'm sure I heard in one of the post match interviews that Agger was fit and that Toure was brought in for tactical reasons (to cope with Hulls physical presence)

I'm not sure I'm fond of switching players in and out of the defence based on that basis

:handhsake:

He said Toure was brought in to organise.

[Sarb]

:handhsake:

He said Toure was brought in to organise.

He failed miserably at that to be honest. His defending was comical