Villa (h) Post match

[dom9]

Because it's easy to blame Rodgers for the formation, but if Gerrard plays just a mediocre game and Mignolet doesn't gift Villa a goal, we win this game.

Can't fault the manager for having only two CB's to pick, who are atrocious together, and going for an attacking side at home but seeing his captain being unable to play football for 45 minutes.

But you can see that in the first half the formation gave rise to a 2 0 deficit, right? And when Rodgers changed it, that gave rise to a 2 0 credit?

You can see that, right?

I mean, players make mistakes, have good games, bad games, mediocre, indifferent games. But to lay results solely at the door at players without thought for the other nuances in the game, that is an oversimplification. Right?

[Muddled]

Is right.

[RichC]

But you can see that in the first half the formation gave rise to a 2 0 deficit, right? And when Rodgers changed it, that gave rise to a 2 0 credit?

You can see that, right?

I mean, players make mistakes, have good games, bad games, mediocre, indifferent games. But to lay results solely at the door at players without thought for the other nuances in the game, that is an oversimplification. Right?

I don't think you can make it any clearer than that

[dom9]

I don't think you can make it any clearer than that

You wouldn't have thought so. I have about another 10 minutes to try though, then I'm off out.

[Boogs]

Where is Morse and the motm thread....
Skrtel for me

[Muddled]

That's the poorest i have ever seen Gerrard play.

I was vexed when he got in Suarez's path in the 92nd minute as Suarez was charging down on goal. Argh!

[Rigadon]

But you can see that in the first half the formation gave rise to a 2 0 deficit, right? And when Rodgers changed it, that gave rise to a 2 0 credit?

You can see that, right?

I mean, players make mistakes, have good games, bad games, mediocre, indifferent games. But to lay results solely at the door at players without thought for the other nuances in the game, that is an oversimplification. Right?

Right

[danperkins]

Where is Morse and the motm thread....
Skrtel for me

Skrtel, then Sterling. Maybe Suarez then even though he didn't play well. Struggle to find the third.

[Rigadon]

I was vexed when he got in Suarez's path in the 92nd minute as Suarez was charging down on goal. Argh!

[Muddled]

Skrtel, then Sterling. Maybe Suarez then even though he didn't play well. Struggle to find the third.

That would be Suarez, no?

[JohnDoe]

But you can see that in the first half the formation gave rise to a 2 0 deficit, right? And when Rodgers changed it, that gave rise to a 2 0 credit?

You can see that, right?

I mean, players make mistakes, have good games, bad games, mediocre, indifferent games. But to lay results solely at the door at players without thought for the other nuances in the game, that is an oversimplification. Right?

Once we went down, we were shell shocked and it was necessary to make a change. Gerrard was also terrible so Lucas had to be brought in. We still weren't very good in the 2nd half and it's not like we were defensively solid after the change, but we weren't a total mess.

I understand why Rodgers decided to do what he did. It didn't work out. Again, it was more to do with our back four and Gerrard having a horrid game (maybe Skrtel was the odd man out, he wasn't poor).

[Boogs]

Skrtel, then Sterling. Maybe Suarez then even though he didn't play well. Struggle to find the third.

Thought Hendo did well for 3rd. His flick for the goal was tremendous

[danperkins]

That would be Suarez, no?

Probably

[danperkins]

Thought Hendo did well for 3rd. His flick for the goal was tremendous

Brilliant flick

But was poor today, not alone though.

[Exiled_red]

A draw was a decent result given the circumstances (being 2-0 down) but having been level for so long I thought we should have gone on to win it.

For me Rodgers got it wrong from the start and while I'm not a fan of early first half subs I thought it was clear what we needed to do, and I'm somewhat disappointed that we didn't make the change earlier.

The game itself just highlighted all our defensive frailties, it is clear that Gerrard isn't a DM, he made mistake after mistake today in that role (and last week at Stoke), it was something Rodgers wanted to try and clearly it didn't work. Now we should abandon it. Defensively we are poor, it is now obvious that Toure is a 4th choice CB, he is nowhere near the player he looked when we first signed him. Cissokho is a poor player and was terrible today, so many times he went missing upfield. and we had no-one covering that side of the pitch, it's not even as if he offers enough going forward, he offers nothing, in fact he looks uncomfortable when he gets the ball, and spent much of the game just standing on the touchline watching the game. Mignolet while a good shot stopper it is obvious that he has areas of his game that need addressing.