Lazar Markovic

[spud_gun]

Yes - pointed out several times but generally ignored when he's playing poorly!

still a waste of money at £16m

[Cormack74]

still a waste of money at £16m

That debate is probably currently taking place in the Lallana thread mate.

[SB]

Well it had to happen some time.

[fah-q]

You must have been completely asleep during the 90s and 2000s then. The decades we were always 2 signings off from winning the league.

Crazy thing is, 95/96 and 96/97 (maybe a bit of 98) we were a signing or two away from it. A keeper who didn't play video games all night and a midfield enforcer and I reckon we would have won the league. The talent in that squad was incredible.

[peekay]

While I am disappointed at the way Markovic has been handled, I think loaning him to Turkey might have been motivated from both financial as well as footballing reasons. If we send him to lower level Serie A or La liga teams, we would be expected to pay a significant chunk of his wages. Atleast the big teams in Turkey are able to afford his wages.

This decision might have been out of Rodgers' hands.

[frank the tank]

Isn't it a myth that Lallana cost £25m? I thought Bournemouth got £4m from the transfer which makes it £16m in total?

So £25m - £4m = £16m???? Oh okay...... in reality we don't know the break down of any transfer fees, agents fees, sell on clauses etc.... but i think LFC paid £25m for him. (Maybe Southampton only saw £16m of that?)

In reality, you need to judge a manager on a number of factors (transfers being one of them) over a prolonged period of time (unless you are a club like Chelsea a few years ago that sacked a manager every season....regardless of how well they did).

So LFC had a ****in car crash last summer in the transfer market. But this summer I think the signings of Milner, Benteke, Clyne, Gomez are looking like they will more than balance the whole success. If emre can develops then that will tip it further..... and if Firmino is a success, then it will be hard to argue with the committee set up....

Liverpool fc was always a patient club. Their fans were always regarded as being intelligent fans.... its time to get behind the team....

[The Birdman]

Don't understand the fume over Markovic.
He didn't set the world alight last season and while some argue he wasn't played in his proper position that's part and parcel of football.

Firmino is clearly first choice right sided attacker, is Markovic going to accept being his back up?
More to the point will the press allow it or will every week be another circus of "£20 million flop Markovic etc..." at every press conference?
Ibe is suited to being an impact sub and starting maybe 1 game in 3 or 4 at the moment, Markovic seems the type to need to play regularly - he isn't going to get that.

This loan seems perfect to protect his value, he's still young, has 3 years left at the end of this season so 1 year playing regularly gives us breathing space and lets us potentially make a profit if we decide to sell.

[Daffy Duck]

So £25m - £4m = £16m???? Oh okay...... in reality we don't know the break down of any transfer fees, agents fees, sell on clauses etc.... but i think LFC paid £25m for him. (Maybe Southampton only saw £16m of that?)

That's not how it works, Bournemouth were entitled to 25% of the total transfer fee, considering they only received £4m it means that the overall transfer fee should have been around £16m.

[McDermotX]

Assuming of course that Bournemouth were entitled to 25% of total fee as opposed to up to a certain amount, or that they didn't negotiate a reduced amount with Southampton.

Bottom line, is we're not always privy to the inner workings of transfer deals, but as much as we like to poke holes in the sports media, they are more on the ball than not with figures, and you can normally side with the predominantly reported amount.
I'd find 25m for an English international of Lallana's exposure very believable....certainly more than 16m in any case.

[Norbs]

Firmino could well be in the same position next season. E have a habit of signing light weight wide players

[tanner]

still a waste of money at £16m

We've already seen the best of Lallana, this is as good as he gets.

I still feel that there's potential with Markovic,he's not going to be a world beater though. He started one game last season and did really well, then I seem to remember Brendan dropped him for the next and that was that.

[Exiled_red]

That's not how it works, Bournemouth were entitled to 25% of the total transfer fee, considering they only received £4m it means that the overall transfer fee should have been around £16m.

From his wikipedia page:

After long periods of negotiation Liverpool placed a reported £25 million bid which was later accepted by Southampton. Following England's return from the World Cup, Lallana signed for Liverpool, and was handed the number 20 shirt, the number he wore during his time at Southampton.
Bournemouth, Lallana's youth team, had originally included a 25% sell-on-clause in his contract when he joined Southampton, but only received £4 million after agreeing to a reduced fee with Southampton

[Cormack74]

The emphasis there is on the word reported, which it was. Doesn't make it fact.

It's reported Neymar might go to Utd, the fact is he won't.

[baitman]

maybe saints said they would give bournemouth 50p a week until foreverafter.
so bournemouth were happy to agree 4m in one lump.

[Bender]

James Pearce
Lazar Markovic set to undergo his medical at Fenerbahce today ahead of season-long loan move. Announcement expected over the weekend. #LFC