Alberto Moreno

[danperkins]

Ah.... when a player thread descends to the chaos of discussing the ethics of posting and forum behaviours/etiquettes.

The indictment of the truly **** player ...!

escalation for absolutely no reason. **** everybody I have go out to work

[Kenneth]

Come on

My comments are there for all to see and let us not confuse genuine animosity with just thinking a player is ****, not good enough for the club & wanted him gone. I don't think I have ever wished death on his family ffs, I have been accused of a few things on forums but never " genuine animosity".

For the record, I had zero issue with any of your Markovic comments, you called him crap and a massive fanny... and I agree you, called a spade a spade I don't see the big deal in it at all, I don't have an issue with 99% of what anyone says it's all good. You didn't like him from the start and called it, same as me with Moreno. You like Mig too, me not so much. I thought Skrtel was ok, you didn't. Honestly though, who gives a **** really just opinions, some people just get so sensitive about them. I understand dom being a crusader and starting a fire nothing new there but didn't think you were that would be arsed.

Before yesterdays game, I had 4 comments this season in the Moreno thread & someone else ask a question was it Moreno's fault for goal in match thread and it all kicked off tables flying etc etc. Relentless! Just don't play him and the thread we will have tumbleweeds

I wouldn't have taken 'animosity' so strongly, I wasn't implying that you wanted him dead. And I liked skrtel.

[red g]

Perceived agendas... What a crock of ****

What has anyone got to "gain" from pointing out the flaws of our comedy left back (for example)

A few people are so defensive of some players you'd think they were blood relatives.
Most of these players will be here for a little while and then be somewhere else sooner or later so don't get all precious about them, they dont give a **** about you or me.

Wish Moreno was one of them

[Saveloy]

Wish Moreno was one of them

[Lecter]

I am surprised nobody picked up on his positional play, although that might not have been shown by the TV cameras

There was tons of times he was coming inside almost into a central midfield position and just daydreaming. Klopp & VVD were going ape**** at him

The biggest difference between him and Robertson is that Robertson is actually aware of his surroundings and knows when to go and when to not and also when to get back into position

Seems to take an age for Moreno to register that he shouldnt be standing where he shouldnt be

[Buzzo]

You need to have been at the game to get away with a bold comment like that...!

I must admit, I did notice (even on the highlights) that he was 10m in from the touchline.

One thing with Robbo is that he stays wide, offering width and is therefor always an out-ball, he knows when to go and when to sit back. Keeping shape and how players move within that is crucial in how Klopp wants us to play. 90 plus minutes of focus is required, and for certain Moreno doesnt offer that.

[Lecter]

You need to have been at the game to get away with a bold comment like that...!

I must admit, I did notice (even on the highlights) that he was 10m in from the touchline.

One thing with Robbo is that he stays wide, offering width and is therefor always an out-ball, he knows when to go and when to sit back. Keeping shape and how players move within that is crucial in how Klopp wants us to play. 90 plus minutes of focus is required, and for certain Moreno doesnt offer that.

He was further in than 10m on numerous occasions. At first I thought it might have been Klopp trying Guardiolas inverted fullback thing but then you could clearly hear and see Klopp & VVD having a go at him

Fully agree regarding Robertson and Klopps system

[danperkins]

Wish Moreno was one of them

[danperkins]

I wouldn't have taken 'animosity' so strongly, I wasn't implying that you wanted him dead. And I liked skrtel.

Zero problems with you Ken, I like the way you call a spade a spade & I have no problem in having debates etc or even little tiffs once it doesn't turn into an argument which it won't (what's the point like). I have no issues having a more constructive conversation about Moreno instead of me calling him **** but it's been done to death and it's just easier for me to say he's ****.... than try to analyse why he runs around like he's chasing butterflies. I think Lec and Buzzo have nailed exactly his issues & the effect that has on our defence in a more eloquent manor than I did.

We disagree on certain things (Moreno clearly being one of them), like everyone will at some point or another on things concerning LFC... it's healthy all is good

[dom9]

If only you took your own advice from time to time

I'm nothing, if not a hypocrite.

But in all seriousness, yourself and several others have an agenda against certain players, and as long as I think you're being overly and unfairly critical, then I'll continue to argue against it.

[danperkins]

I'm nothing, if not a hypocrite.

But in all seriousness, yourself and several others have an agenda against certain players, and as long as I think you're being overly and unfairly critical, then I'll continue to argue against it.

Mate, an agenda is just untrue, big difference between agenda and just being repetitive. I get that certain players resonate with some and not so much with others etc but I'm judging Moreno on his performances at LFC and I'm pretty confident that i'm am massively in the majority on this one.

Everything I have said about his lack of awareness, position sense, committing to tackle when he shouldn't & standing off attacker when he should close them down is absolutely spot on imo & is exactly what everyone else is saying. There is a reason why Robbo is our number one LB instead of Moreno. Same as Mig dropped for Alisson & Lovren dropped for Gomez. You say agenda against these 3 players or that they are scapegoats but they have been dropped by Klopp, so what does that say? Lovren to a lesser extent as he can do a job beside VVD but he is rash and will do stupid things which again in a commonly shared opinion.

I have said previous that I have zero issues with Lovren being a squad player as he is better beside Virgil so that's comforting & I have said I would rather have Mig sub keeper than Karius. Moreno though I want him gone. Absolutely fair enough if you think i'm being overly critical but I just think i am calling it the way it is & my opinion is in line with most other LFC supporters.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Is this about Moreno or can I just use it as an excuse for a dig at Dan?




Jackeen fecker

[danperkins]

Is this about Moreno or can I just use it as an excuse for a dig at Dan?




Jackeen fecker

Why stop tradition jacoff, i mean jaco

[Doc_Piptorious]

Why stop tradition jacoff, i mean jaco

Looks better with a K, my old pickled cucumber

[danperkins]

Looks better with a K, my old pickled cucumber