Thing vs thingy postmatch

[Maxiedge]

With respect, i think thats a weak argument. But my point is i've seen Skrtel or Johnson play ok for 70 minutes then **** up like Moreno and they cop it.

Playing in a positive manner does not make up for being so blatantly one footed. Lots of players obviously have a stronger or preferred foot but most of them can also stomach using the other one when necessary and Moreno never does.

You're still not seeing the bigger picture. We were in the position we were in because of other players on the pitch.

[alonso14]

Everyone agrees with that I think, but we could have been better prepared with replacements for him. Now we seem to be clueless and abandoning our philosophy.

for the price we paid for lallana and markovic, we could have put some serious money on the table for marco reus. if he cost £50m so what. at least we have some serious talent to help replace luis suarez.

[baitman]

losing suarez would be a hammer blow to any team, but we were looking to improve the team as a group and not be so reliant on any one player.

that went well.

[Roboklopp]

Have no problem with the signing of Lallana.

[Muddled]

Houllier once played attacking footy for a bit but soon gave it up. Remember Owen, Heskey & Anelka vs Newcastle. Of course we signed Doofus instead of Anelka & the rest is (very sorry) history.

Yeah, that was a great game of foobtall. What about the other way though?

Having thought about it for a tiny bit admittedly IMO the blame lies solely with Brendan not any of the players.

Brendan has to shoulder some of the blame, sure. He tried to do the right thing and he took a risk in doing so, but we didn't click going forward and our defence looks as shambolic as ever. Although interestingly enough, we looked better at defending set-pieces. However, when players are running at us, they all look like they have two left feet.

[baitman]

Funnily enough, I said the exact same thing in the Brendog thread.

not as eloquently though

[Norbs]

We look confused, muddled thinking from the manager, no confidence, our entire ethos seems to have collapsed.

We are completely swamped in any attack we mount. I've never understood how the game is so open in our own half yet so congested at the other end. Teams obviously sit and invite pressure from us and we try to counter that by passing around our defence to invite pressure on us and to create space but once we've done that we break too slowly and it's a pointless exercise. We never seem to have any space in the final third.

I wish I knew the solution, but I do know that it's not just about Suarez and Sturridge. Last season we came firing out of the blocks and often got our noses ahead early on. This forced opponents to come at us and we counter attacked. When we failed to score early we still looked vulnerable.

Personnel wise, Sterling looks broken and is being asked to fill too many roles when he should be encouraged to play to his strengths. One thing that is really bugging me is this. Balotelli is a striker who wants a partner, Lambert is at home as a lone striker. We start with a lone striker and that should be Lambert instead of Balotelli. Why don't we try Lambert on his own and if that's not working bring on Balotelli, instead of the other way round. It's annoying and confusing.

[alonso14]

Yeah, that was a great game of foobtall. What about the other way though?



Brendan has to shoulder some of the blame, sure. He tried to do the right thing and he took a risk in doing so, but we didn't click going forward and our defence looks as shambolic as ever. Although interestingly enough, we looked better at defending set-pieces. However, when players are running at us, they all look like they have two left feet.

we are using the same system rafa benitez used in his time with us. half man to man, half zonal.

it needs practice though and plenty of it. guarantee when ivanovic scores next week from a corner we will all be looking at each other wondering who;s job it was to pick him up.

i respect brendan for looking to make changes because its not working, but these things have to be worked on pre-season. not when we have 3 games a week.

[Norbs]

Only £40m net though

We're always going to be beaten with that stick despite you having the correct answer. What we should've done is kept hold of the money and just tried to replace Suarez with one signing. The scatter gun approach is what irks, spunking the money irks.

[Roboklopp]

not as eloquently though

More succinctly I feel.

[Norbs]

And. What the hell was Robbie Savage going on about when he was saying we were three at the back when we had the ball, flat back four when we were defending. Does one full back not always slot across when the other attacks? All it seemed to me was that we were mounting the majority of our attacks down our left side

[EwarWoo]

We're always going to be beaten with that stick despite you having the correct answer. What we should've done is kept hold of the money and just tried to replace Suarez with one signing. The scatter gun approach is what irks, spunking the money irks.

Our squad was woefully short. It was an opportunity to fill it out we couldn't look past.

We just ****ed it up. It doesn't make it the wrong thing to do, it was just carried out badly.

[alonso14]

Our squad was woefully short. It was an opportunity to fill it out we couldn't look past.

We just ****ed it up. It doesn't make it the wrong thing to do, it was just carried out badly.

raheem sterling looks really tired but he plays the whole game. adam lallana who's a seasoned professional and can play that position doesnt even get on the pitch.

we have bought these lads and then not using them when we should be.

[DannyMan2006]

Football isn't rocket science. The players have lost confidence in themselves and each other and it's as simple as that. We don't have a squad of poor players, just one without confidence.

Today I don't think we did much wrong as a whole. We were solid. In fact, we were starting to control the game and I actually thought we were going to start to turn the screw. But in all honesty, both teams were quite poor and I always thought the first goal would win it.

I know people are having a dig at Rodgers. We'd all pick a different line up and obviously when we lose we all point that out, when we win we brush over that. Last year people were sending Raheem on loan to Derby and Gerrard was consigned to the dump. Both ended up being excellent & that was down to Rodgers. He takes the training and he speaks to the fitness people. He picks a team based on all that.

Honestly though we could have started fifty different formations today. IMO players hid and/or had poor individual performances. They weren't passing it great, they were taking too long to controls he ball and often they delayed the release of the pass. The attacking players didn't show and too often it was left to Lovren or Skrtel under pressure to hoof a diagonal where Coutinho and Sterling were getting dominated.

Raheem today was particularly poor. He got dominated by Paul Dummett. He never beat him on the take, never got behind him and seldom attempted too. But then Couts gets it and he couldn't pass it even five yards. They were both worse than mr scapegoat himself today. Whilst Allen & Hendo have to break the lines and offer support.

Really limp performance. Just no zip to our game. It wasn't terrible, it wasn't shocking. They stayed solid, but there needs to be more bravery. The only bravery I saw was from the NUFC players who were willing to run at us and have a go.

[DannyMan2006]

And. What the hell was Robbie Savage going on about when he was saying we were three at the back when we had the ball, flat back four when we were defending. Does one full back not always slot across when the other attacks? All it seemed to me was that we were mounting the majority of our attacks down our left side

Did you watch the game?

As soon as we had possession from the keeper or anywhere, Moreno would bomb on whilst Glen would hold. Previously we played with the CB's splitting and Gerrard dropping in.

Today we tried to play with Glen making the third defender as opposed to Gerrard. I guess the idea was it would allow Gerrard a bit more license to roam, which was evident on the odd occasion. But all it did was Gerrard kept coming deep to start the play and as we didn't build possession well it just ended up with us playing 5/6 at the back and hardly anyone forwards. The front three if Newcastle took up good positions tbh and meant our midfielders were undecided about joining the attack.

Too often we had just three forwards and no options. And it didn't help us at all as NUFC Ended up in something like a 361 themselves at times, cancelling the game out.