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    #16
    Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
    Well he'd be an idiot to change back after such positive play in the last two games. I guarantee we play 343.
    He wouldn't be an idiot, he'd looked at how many we've conceded over the last two games & the chances that Bournemouth had.

    I'd have no problem with him starting off with that formation and going out all guns blazing but at some point Arsenal will come into the game and press us high up the pitch. I would worry for us if Toure & Sakho get isolated against Sanchez or Ox in the wide areas. Remember Sakho only has 45 mins under his belt & he looked very rusty. He'll have Sanchez to deal with a will need some support throughout the game.

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      #17
      Originally posted by danperkins View Post
      Playing Gerrard at CB would be an absolute catastrophe mate. He isn't good enough defensively, is slower than Lovren & positionally he be a nightmare

      If i was to liken Sterling to anyone it would be Walcott. The same type of attacking player, speed merchant that has struggled with a end product. Moving him central and playing off the last defender is very similiar to what Wenger did the same with Walcott. Not sure if Walcott payed in a 1 or a 2 up top though?
      Sterling nothing like Walcott, far better positionally both front and back. Raheem could play RB, Theo couldn't. Theo also wouldn't be able to play tip of a diamond.

      As for Gerrard, I'd play him central of the three which eliminates need for pace as much. He pretty much played that way last season, he's just deeper. He has the height and aggression. Good spring on him too.
      Forwards.......

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        #18
        More like us from last season. Rapid attack at times and calamitous at the back.
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          #19
          Originally posted by danperkins View Post
          He wouldn't be an idiot, he'd looked at how many we've conceded over the last two games & the chances that Bournemouth had.

          I'd have no problem with him starting off with that formation and going out all guns blazing but at some point Arsenal will come into the game and press us high up the pitch. I would worry for us if Toure & Sakho get isolated against Sanchez or Ox in the wide areas. Remember Sakho only has 45 mins under his belt & he looked very rusty. He'll have Sanchez to deal with a will need some support throughout the game.
          So you would advocate changing from a formation where we look dangerous to one where we've looked hopeless?

          We will not stop Arsenal scoring even if we sit back. I think we are best looking to score and win the game. If we change to the formation we played against Basle I'll be pissed off if I'm honest.
          Forwards.......

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            #20
            Originally posted by Rich View Post
            More like us from last season. Rapid attack at times and calamitous at the back.
            Just less adept at finishing off the chances. Raheem has gone from third most dangerous to first. And not particularly because he's gone up a number of levels, but because the others around him are far worse.
            Forwards.......

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              #21
              Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
              Sterling nothing like Walcott, far better positionally both front and back. Raheem could play RB, Theo couldn't. Theo also wouldn't be able to play tip of a diamond.

              As for Gerrard, I'd play him central of the three which eliminates need for pace as much. He pretty much played that way last season, he's just deeper. He has the height and aggression. Good spring on him too.
              RB!? Danny come on mate. Sure i could play RB too... just not very well

              Sterling is good across the front line and can play at the tip. Walcott can play across the front line too. Walcott started out exactly like Sterling, young English talent lots of pressure & expectation, pace to burn but struggled with end product. When he started to get an end product Wenger used him in the striker role on the last defender.

              Playing Gerrard at CB is an even worse idea as playing him as a DM.. which we can clearly see is a disaster. He doesn't have the defensive awareness or positional sense to do that.

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                #22
                Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                RB!? Danny come on mate. Sure i could play RB too... just not very well





                Sterling is good across the front line and can play at the tip. Walcott can play across the front line too. Walcott started out exactly like Sterling, young English talent lots of pressure & expectation, pace to burn but struggled with end product. When he started to get an end product Wenger used him in the striker role on the last defender.





                Playing Gerrard at CB is an even worse idea as playing him as a DM.. which we can clearly see is a disaster. He doesn't have the defensive awareness or positional sense to do that.


                I think the point is that he has played RB in the past for us.
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                  So you would advocate changing from a formation where we look dangerous to one where we've looked hopeless?

                  We will not stop Arsenal scoring even if we sit back. I think we are best looking to score and win the game. If we change to the formation we played against Basle I'll be pissed off if I'm honest.
                  I would start off with it and see how we get on but at this stage players will not be able to keep up that pace and intensity. It's is inevitable that a team of Arsenal's quality will push at some stage. I just would worry with the 3 at the back not getting the appropriate support from the widemen as the game wears on. Arsenal won't miss the chances that Bournemouth did & they will create more.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Rich View Post
                    I think the point is that he has played RB in the past for us.
                    So has Glen Johnson, doesn't mean their any good there

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Rich View Post
                      I think the point is that he has played RB in the past for us.
                      And he was outstanding.
                      Forwards.......

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                        I would start off with it and see how we get on but at this stage players will not be able to keep up that pace and intensity. It's is inevitable that a team of Arsenal's quality will push at some stage. I just would worry with the 3 at the back not getting the appropriate support from the widemen as the game wears on. Arsenal won't miss the chances that Bournemouth did & they will create more.
                        Arsenal will score if we play 343. But I'm hoping we will too. Bottom line, Arsenal will score whatever formation we put out. And we need to win games, not sit back and hope for a 0-0.
                        Forwards.......

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                          RB!? Danny come on mate. Sure i could play RB too... just not very well

                          Sterling is good across the front line and can play at the tip. Walcott can play across the front line too. Walcott started out exactly like Sterling, young English talent lots of pressure & expectation, pace to burn but struggled with end product. When he started to get an end product Wenger used him in the striker role on the last defender.

                          Playing Gerrard at CB is an even worse idea as playing him as a DM.. which we can clearly see is a disaster. He doesn't have the defensive awareness or positional sense to do that.
                          I can't believe you're comparing Walcott to Sterling. Walcott had never played at the tip and never will. He lacks the game intelligence for it, as well as the passing.

                          And IMO, Raheem will never be a striker. Just like Walcott never will be for Arsenal. He's playing there because we have no one else suitable.
                          Forwards.......

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                            #28
                            Ridiculous to just sit back alright... as we aren't good enough defensively to do that but I was shouting for Rodgers to put Can on a bit earlier than he did. Bournemouth were really pushing & when Can came on the game completely changed ... we looked much more solid.

                            So not advocating sitting back but at the same time, I would be concerned about the 3 at the back being isolated against Arsenal's quality. Looking forward to a fun game though, which is more than we've had in a long time.

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                              #29
                              Well I predicted a 3-1 with Sterling scoring but never did I think we'd be getting the three goals. Brendan deserves the credit for this. Thank God Lallana made that partnership with Coutinho work, and Sterling learnt to finish.

                              Still can't see us getting anything against Arsenal though so FSG will not take too much notice of tonight's result.
                              One tit for another.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                                I can't believe you're comparing Walcott to Sterling. Walcott had never played at the tip and never will. He lacks the game intelligence for it, as well as the passing.

                                And IMO, Raheem will never be a striker. Just like Walcott never will be for Arsenal. He's playing there because we have no one else suitable.
                                I never said Walcott has played at the tip ? I said they are similar players, young English, lots of pressure, lots of speed & Sterling much like Walcott early on struggled with his final ball & production. Similar? I think so.

                                Walcott was moved by Wenger into a striker's role to play on the shoulder of the last man, Rodgers did that in the last few games now with Sterling. Also similar?

                                I never said they were identical, I said i would liken Sterling to Walcott

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