Danny Ings

[Fosterbloke]

He did OK, first season adapting to a new league coming into a side that was a complete basket case. He contributed more for United than Lambert did for us. He's only seen as a failure because they overpaid by so much for him.

But a failure nonetheless despite being close to world class. Scored 3 and assisted 10 in a top PL side.

Ings is 22 and is adapting to the Premier League from the Championship. Scored 11 and assisted 3 in a **** team.

[Gibbo]

But a failure nonetheless despite being close to world class. Scored 3 and assisted 10 in a top PL side.

Ings is 22 and is adapting to the Premier League from the Championship. Scored 11 and assisted 3 in a **** team.

I think Liverpool fans more than anyone should know that stats don't tell the whole story.

I don't think DiMaria has been a huge success but it doesn't change the fact that he's a winger not a forward, and with 10 assists he's pretty much done his job, which obviously for the price you would expect at the very least.

Borini at Sunderland, Lambert at Southamptoon both their stats read similar to how Ings's do now, those two couldn't jump to a higher club with more expectation and the realisation that they are far more of a cog, no one will change their game for them.

It's a jump for Ings no doubt, stats only tell you so much, who knows if he can make the jump or not.

[red g]

But how much have we wasted on players, we deep down knew they wouldn't cut it? Borini, Lambert, Aspas, Alberto, Assaidi, Balotelli even, it's a waste of resources and a waste of a spot in the squad to keep taking punts. I have in the past been optimistic and looked for the brighter side but I think we need to change how we do things.

But in theory....As he maybe our new star striker purchase

We are buying him as 3rd choice striker, Who are you expecting us to buy for this position and what do you think our outlay should be? furthermore we are not in the CL and probably wont be challenging for the title next year.

If Origi & Ings are a back upto Sturridge and a Marquee striker....Then we can go into the season with reasonable optimism about our attacking prowess.

I will only be disappointed with this signing at the end of the window and realise he will be our main striker going into the season.

[frank the tank]

I will be interested to see if he can make the step up with a team that can hopefully create more and more chances for him. In reality if he has Coutinho, Moreno, Lallana, Milner, Ibe and Henderson creating chances for him, then he should get more chances to shoot and score than he ever did at Burnley.

If he is ****e, then we will get a nice profit in the transfer market. It is a no-brainer signing.

And to those people that say things like "he could cost us £12m" i really don't know how. My understanding is that when you sign a young player and it goes to tribunal, then the tribunal only really looks at what the club has spent on developing the player into a better player. In reality Burnley bought him for £1m and paid him for 3 years. I don't see how they can turn around and say "that'll be £12m please" - as those were not the costs that Burnley incurred in training him. Also, if they paid him the wages of a typical £1m footballer, then they can't really expect to get £12m. I can see it being £3m max......i wouldnt be surprised if the tribunal actually turned around and said "give them their £1m back and leave it at that"

The fact that they need to pay money to replace him are insignificant - if he was 2 years older he could walk anyway. In my view, Burnley would be better off doing a deal with Liverpool whereby they get a couple of our top young players on loan for next season....it would probably help them achieve getting to the premier league again more than the extra few quid they would get off a club....

[The_weatherman]

But in theory....As he maybe our new star striker purchase

We are buying him as 3rd choice striker, Who are you expecting us to buy for this position and what do you think our outlay should be? furthermore we are not in the CL and probably wont be challenging for the title next year.

If Origi & Ings are a back upto Sturridge and a Marquee striker....Then we can go into the season with reasonable optimism about our attacking prowess.

I will only be disappointed with this signing at the end of the window and realise he will be our main striker going into the season.

I just don't see much difference in Ings and Borini, Brendan should maye have given Borini more chances. We still have to offload Borini, Lambert, Balotelli and Aspas as well. Right now we have on our books Sturridge, Origi, Balotelli, Lambert, Aspas, Borini and Ings.

[Doc_Piptorious]

I don't know what the average is but that seems like a pretty good shots-to-goals ratio.

Not massively excited by Ings but to be honest I've barely seen him play, so I'm probably being a bit harsh. If he comes in as third choice and scores ten league goals next season then I'll be happy with that.

Would be over the moon if he got ten league goals. Think I would be setting the bar a little bit lower than that for him tbh as if we did start the season with a quality striker and then Sturridge came back and stayed fit then I would expect Ings to get less chances to add to his tally.

Think I would be expecting similar from Ings to what I hoped Lambert would get last season, and that is seven league goals.

[Yozza]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/danny-ings-burnley-striker-funds-scheme-to-help-disabled-youngsters-in-the-region-9884855.html

I really hope he does well as he comes across as a really decent bloke


Danny Ings: Burnley striker funds foundation to help disabled youngsters in the region

Well played, Danny Ings.

The Clarets' striker has launched his own self-funded foundation for disabled youngsters in the Burnley area.

Ings has scored three Premier League goals for the newly-promoted club this season, including his double on Saturday in the 2-1 win at Stoke City.

In conjunction with Burnley FC in the Community, "The Danny Ings Disability Sport Project" aims to deliver football coaching to disabled youngsters and with learning difficulties throughout the region.

"It’s something that’s been a long time coming," revealed Ings.

"I wanted to do it last year, but with all of the games in the Championship, it wasn’t possible.

"So I sat down in the summer with the Burnley FC In The Community lads, who have been fantastic, and we came up with this project and I’m just happy that it’s launched.

"It’s not about the money for me, it’s about seeing the smiles on the kids’ faces, that’s what means the most to me and that’s why I want to give as much back as I can.

"Unfortunately these kids won’t be able to have the career that I’ve got, so supporting them and making them part of the journey in my career means a lot."

Ings revealed that the inspiration for the project came from a meeting a young disabled fan. The picture (below) went viral.

Danny Ings and young fan Joseph Skinner in May 2013 Danny Ings and young fan Joseph Skinner in May 2013 “A couple of years ago, I got my picture taken with a young lad called Joseph Skinner, who I gave my boots to. Before I even got back in the changing room, the picture had gone viral. From that day on, it really inspired me to give my all back, and do as much as I can.

"I’m planning to cover as many disabilities as possible, giving them as much sports and football coaching as I can. Also, I’ll be creating Burnley’s first ever adult disability football team, to compete in the north-west league."

[red g]

I just don't see much difference in Ings and Borini, Brendan should maye have given Borini more chances. We still have to offload Borini, Lambert, Balotelli and Aspas as well. Right now we have on our books Sturridge, Origi, Balotelli, Lambert, Aspas, Borini and Ings.

jesus thats probaby 400k a week in wages+ for that lot. Hope we manage to get rid of some in the summer!!

[Lee]

10 goals as first choice would be an improvement

Would be over the moon if he got ten league goals. Think I would be setting the bar a little bit lower than that for him tbh as if we did start the season with a quality striker and then Sturridge came back and stayed fit then I would expect Ings to get less chances to add to his tally.

Think I would be expecting similar from Ings to what I hoped Lambert would get last season, and that is seven league goals.

You're right, I think your expectations are much more realistic.

[Yozza]

http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=104&fid=297&sty=2&act=1&mid=2109984147#QM7E1VFdPZKT3JFW.97

Some of the comments on there...

Good luck to him - I don't think he needs it, in that team he is already one of their best players.
With Sturridge being about as reliable as a chocolate fireguard, Borini being inept, Lambert being seemingly unwanted and Balotelli being...Balotelli, I should think Ings will do very well there and get plenty of gametime.


Ings has shown pretty clearly that his career priorities are more about filling his pockets than worrying about the niceties of individual clubs.
It's a safe bet that Loserpool will have come out top of the Wonga table for our Danny...and that will make them the right choice for him.


Each to their own obviously, but now he's no longer a Burnley player I really couldn't give a toss if he spends the rest of his career scratching his arse on Liverpool's bench. Sharp lad with a bit of pace, but not a great finisher at Prem level.


The majority of Liverpool fans are not impressed and you can't blame them really. He's simply not good enough to start for Liverpool, but I guess he is a money-man, so that won't bother him.


I find it funny that some people think that a lad who was on loan at Dorchester Town 5 years ago has made a bad career choice by signing for one of England's biggest clubs on what will be a ridiculously lucrative contract. I bet that's a better career choice than anyone on this message board has ever made.

[Liverpel]

Comment: Danny Ings is an inspired signing for Liverpool - he can be better than Harry Kane

The England under-21 striker Danny Ings might not be as celebrated as his Tottenham counterpart, but he has the ability and character to thrive at Anfield

Having witnessed Luis Suarez scoring the crucial goal in Barcelona’s Champions League final triumph against Juventus at the weekend, Liverpool supporters are more likely to be mourning the loss of a talisman this morning than celebrating the arrival of Ings at Anfield.

One is a £75m superstar, the player who almost ended Liverpool’s 24-year wait for a league title last year; the other is an out-of-contract England under-21 forward who failed to score the goals to keep Burnley in the Premier League.

In such black and white terms, it is easy to suggest that Liverpool’s move for Ings offers further proof of the club’s inability attract and keep the best players -- Raheem Sterling, who was booed throughout England’s goalless draw with the Republic of Ireland in Dublin on Sunday is another example of a player who believe Liverpool can only take him so far.

But if you cut through the cynicism and judge the Ings signing on its merits, the reality is that Liverpool and Brendan Rodgers have made a smart move for a player whose qualities are likely to blossom at Anfield rather than drag the club down.

Many good judges regard Ings as a certainty to play for England at senior level, some would even suggest that the 22-year-old is the best prospect of an emerging crop with also includes Harry Kane and Saido Berahino.

The comparison with Berahino is a loose one, merely based on the two forwards developing with the under-21s at the same time: they are very different players.

That is less the case with Ings versus Kane. They are two classic centre-forwards who have come to the end of their first full season in the Premier League with their reputations enhanced, even if it is only Kane seeing his name up in lights.

The big positive for Liverpool, however, is that Ings will retain the surprise element next season, having largely gone under the radar with Burnley.

And if he maintains the progress he has shown at Turf Moor over the past 12 months, Ings can use Anfield as the stage to surpass Kane and become the more celebrated of the two.

Kane enjoyed a magnificent campaign at Tottenham last season, scoring 31 goals in 51 appearances for Mauricio Pochettino’s team, as well one on his England debut against Lithuania in March.

The 21-year-old has a clear eye for goal, physical presence and aerial prowess, but as the season drew to a close, the goals began to dry up - he scored just twice in two months after his England debut -- with opponents learning how to shackle him.

Ings scored 11 goals in 37 appearances for Burnley, a return completely overshadowed by Kane, but given he was playing for a team which found chances and goals incredibly hard to come by, such a contribution highlights his ability to make and take opportunities.

The qualities which mark Ings out are his movement, pace, ability to hold the ball up as a link-man and two strong feet.

He is an all-round centre-forward and, while Kane’s aerial ability is better, Ings appears to possess more components for success at the top level than his Tottenham counterpart.

How he handles the move to Liverpool will define his input on the pitch, however. With Daniel Sturridge due to miss the start of the season through injury and manager Rodgers showing little or no faith in Mario Balotelli and Rickie Lambert - both of whom may well be sold - Ings is likely to start the season in the team.

He could partner Divock Origi, the 20-year-old Belgian who will arrive from Lille this summer, but Ings’s greater Premier League experience is likely to give him the edge as Rodgers’s first option.

For many who have not seen Ings at close hand, eyes will be rolled at Liverpool’s move for him.

But he is a player who can quickly become the answer to Liverpool’s goalscoring problems and while he will never be another Suarez, he will be better than many anticipate.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/comment-danny-ings-is-an-inspired-signing-for-liverpool-he-can-be-better-than-harry-kane-31285851.html

[MrMichael]

This sort of post is cropping up all the time now. I don't feel all that optimistic about the signings so far, but, who knows maybe I'll be proven wrong, it does feel like unless you post something positive about Ings/Milnet/Bogdan/Rodgers/FSG, then these negative opinions make you less of a fan?

Whats wrong with a healthy dose of Skepticism?

I don't think that's the problem at all, the issue isn't a binary one but one about extremes. When does that skepticism become unhealthy? Blind faith in everything is silly, just as blind determination to see everything as a disaster is.

Personally I have no issues whatsoever with people not rating a player or thinking the club is doing this wrong but some of the excessive "everything is ****" mentality is getting really rather over the top and honestly would read to fans of most other clubs in the country as demonstrating the sort of entitled attitude LFC fans are often accused of holding.

Not only is Ings a better player than most are making out, and deserves a fair chance from the fans for wanting to pull on our shirt, but also his signing doesn't have to fit some overall narrative about sliding towards mediocrity unless people insist on drawing ridiculous comparisons with Suarez as if he should be the measuring stick for every signing of any status we ever make for ever more.

The lack of balance and realism going around right now is really unhealthy imo; people were far happier to convince themselves that quite obviously the worst striker in the world for us was a good signing last year because he was a big name but when we go out and actually demonstrate some nouse, picking up a young player FAR better suited to our play with an infinitely better attitude and for a third of the fee, who just isn't very exotic, the sky is falling in?

I just find the extrapolation from "I don't rate Ings even for £6m" to "We're the new Aston Villa" absurd.

Same arguments were put forward when Lambert was announced. Look how that worked out.

So because people were wrong about Lambert similar reasoning must be wrong about every other signing ever? You don't see the obvious problem with that argument?

[Daffy Duck]

I have a gut feeling that he'll be absolutely incredible even though there's nothing that points towards that. Just one of those players who find a right environment for them and become great.

[Doc_Piptorious]

I have a gut feeling that he'll be absolutely incredible even though there's nothing that points towards that. Just one of those players who find a right environment for them and become great.

Lets hope then that your post is the one we all point back to in twelve months time. Would be fantastic to see him have a Sturridge style break out season with us (without any of the fitness worries that followed of course).

[The_weatherman]

Lets hope then that your post is the one we all point back to in twelve months time. Would be fantastic to see him have a Sturridge style break out season with us (without any of the fitness worries that followed of course).

Hope I'll look a complete idiot after the season.