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    Originally posted by Zapater View Post
    A few people are saying that we loan him out. I don't really see how that's an option. Either he stays as back up or he's sold. The only reason he should be loaned out is if we can't sell him, or if we're hoping to raise his asking price. Loaning out a player who is 26 in a couple of months makes no sense. He may prove fitness but he's not going to come back a better player.



    Wholeheartedly agree. It seems pretty straight forward to me. Not sure why people are so aggressive about this situation and want him to stay so much. For his duration at the club, he's hardly played and has been injured for the majority of the time. When he has played he hasn't looked like a player who has much of a purpose here.
    If he was sold this summer, I would lose no sleep over it. If we replace him with a better player I'll be delighted. Whether he'll ever be good enough for us remains to be seen (although admittedly the odds are stacked against him), but he still had a good season for Burnley in first and only full PL season and looked very promising for us before he pick up that injury for England. To suggest he didn't that that he's never been good enough for the Premiership is nonsense.
    If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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      End of the day you have to ask yourself, can we replace him with someone better? Clearly the answer is yes. So why exactly keep him.

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        Originally posted by vlahka View Post
        End of the day you have to ask yourself, can we replace him with someone better? Clearly the answer is yes. So why exactly keep him.
        That could be said of most of the team. Nobody at all will have any problems if we do sell him, there is only a section who will if we don't.
        If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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          Originally posted by RedReet View Post
          That could be said of most of the team. Nobody at all will have any problems if we do sell him, there is only a section who will if we don't.
          That should probably tell you something
          And for the record, I don't mind if we keep him, as long as we don't need to play him when it matters.
          Last edited by Kenneth; 26-04-18, 11:30 AM.
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            if we got a replacement for ings then the other player wouldnt be playing regular first team games, and would have long spells on the bench. there would be some rotation and some 10-15 minute substitute appearances but is that enough to click with the rest of the players and ensure we can maintain the standard when we sub off or rotate with some key players.

            we could possibly be looking at 20m+ for ings given how mental the market has gone and the mad money some of the pub teams have recently got.
            removing all the weak links makes us stronger

            too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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              We've been incredibly lucky to avoid significant injuries to our front three this season. We can't rely on that again.
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                Originally posted by baitman View Post
                if we got a replacement for ings then the other player wouldnt be playing regular first team games, and would have long spells on the bench. there would be some rotation and some 10-15 minute substitute appearances but is that enough to click with the rest of the players and ensure we can maintain the standard when we sub off or rotate with some key players.

                we could possibly be looking at 20m+ for ings given how mental the market has gone and the mad money some of the pub teams have recently got.
                I doubt we'd get 10mill for him. It would mainly be loan deals till his contract ran out. I'd rather we had one of our youth players on the bench than him.

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                  some motivation for you, Danny...

                  removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                  too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                    Completely fake lol
                    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                      Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                      Completely fake lol
                      its inspirational stuff though
                      removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                      too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                        Originally posted by vlahka View Post
                        I dont believe its disrespectful at all. Its possibly tongue in cheek comment though as its easier to say championship level rather than 16th possibly 20th team level. Ignoring his 1 decent season, he isnt that spectacular. We can bring up many examples of past strikers who have come here who never looked the part. I'll mention Carroll as example. Cost heaps, did 1 good season, but you could see he was never going to do well here because our style is much different. Compare movement of say Salah, Mane, Firmino, not their goals, just the way they move. Carroll never did that. Ings doesnt do that either. Theres no real intelligence there, only drive. That will only get you so far.
                        Yeah I don't disagree with all that entirely, I just felt that dismissing him as Championship "at best" was a bit overly reductive/harsh without providing at least some context to that opinion. You're right, he's not a spectacular player, but at the point we signed him he had, imo anyway, the time and mentality to improve further (unlike Carroll who never had a similar mindset and was never in a million years a lfc player, even a hardly playing squaddie). Those injuries probably robbed him of that (slim but not impossible) chance, but I daresay the vast vast majority of forwards outside the top 6 in the Prem who hadn't had 2 years out injured would look rather ****e in our attack when compared with our existing trio. I honestly think there's very few teams outside the top section of the league who wouldn't think that with regular first team games he could do well for them.
                        I could not dig, I dared not rob:
                        Therefore I lied to please the mob.
                        Now all my lies are proved untrue
                        And I must face the men I slew.
                        What tale shall serve me here among
                        Mine angry and defrauded young?

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                          i was always keen to see him join us when he was at burnley.
                          he non stop work rate had to be admired, and he would often be scrapping for the ball on the half way line and virtually making his own chances.
                          removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                          too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                              [ame]https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1011564743058968576[/ame]
                              Was muß, das muß.

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                                **** off Shaggy, just **** off
                                Was muß, das muß.

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