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    Originally posted by Nicey View Post
    It could have been much worse so let's count our blessings
    Yep, it's not great timing but I feared it'd be another 6 months or something.

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      Obviously going to be a big miss as he's a super player BUT I do have a new found respect for both Lovren and Matip in our improved defensive setup.

      They are both international class defenders and, if you look around some of the ****e around in the league, they are amongst the better bunch especially as they are considered back-up.

      Gutted for Gomez but genuinely pleased with the backup.

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        Originally posted by Maxiedge View Post
        Obviously going to be a big miss as he's a super player BUT I do have a new found respect for both Lovren and Matip in our improved defensive setup.

        They are both international class defenders and, if you look around some of the ****e around in the league, they are amongst the better bunch especially as they are considered back-up.

        Gutted for Gomez but genuinely pleased with the backup.
        Matip was all over the place at the start of the Burnley game. Misplacing all his passes and he looked a bit nervous. Settled down ok in the end though.

        This is what the squad is for, decent players like him will need to step up and perform well if we're to succeed this season.

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          Originally posted by Pablo View Post
          Matip was all over the place at the start of the Burnley game. Misplacing all his passes and he looked a bit nervous. Settled down ok in the end though.

          This is what the squad is for, decent players like him will need to step up and perform well if we're to succeed this season.
          I think Matip just needs more minutes, understandably rusty, he will start now at least the next three games and hopefully use them as an opportunity to stake his claim.
          * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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            Frustrating him get injured whilst playing ****ing fullback.

            Would never have been in that position playing centrally.

            Didn't look anything in the tackle. He's just a bit brittle isn't he.

            Let's hope he recovers quickly and we don't miss him. Matip is very ropey and will be targeted.
            Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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              Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
              Frustrating him get injured whilst playing ****ing fullback.

              Would never have been in that position playing centrally.

              Didn't look anything in the tackle. He's just a bit brittle isn't he.

              Let's hope he recovers quickly and we don't miss him. Matip is very ropey and will be targeted.
              I was wondering when someone would imply that Klopp's rotation is to blame on the injury.

              Although I suppose that if he had been rested, he wouldn't have got injured either.
              Last edited by dom9; 07-12-18, 05:37 PM.
              Oh I don't know.

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                Have to admit, it does annoy me that we've lost one of our 1st choice CB pairing because we haven't got cover at RB.

                Not blaming Klopp, it's just frustrating.
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                  We did have cover though in Clyne and TAA was available, that's even more annoying

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                    I mean for when we want to rest TAA.

                    Clyne? I’m not sure we even count him as member of the squad anymore.
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                      Originally posted by Pepe79 View Post
                      Have to admit, it does annoy me that we've lost one of our 1st choice CB pairing because we haven't got cover at RB.

                      Not blaming Klopp, it's just frustrating.
                      We had. Fabinho is first choice RB for Brazil, it's just not how we see him. We have other options such as Clyne, Milner etc but they just weren't available.

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                        Originally posted by labourRed View Post
                        We had. Fabinho is first choice RB for Brazil, it's just not how we see him. We have other options such as Clyne, Milner etc but they just weren't available.
                        Exactly, we don’t have a dedicated 2nd option at RB.
                        Resting Trent means moving Gomez from CB to that position, instead of rotating in a fresh RB.

                        Milner was playing in midfield (don’t think he’s ever started at RB for us?) and we’ve clearly bought Fabinho as a MF, but even with them, that’s still moving a player in from another position.

                        Like I said, for whatever reason, Clyne apparently isn’t an option these days. He’s been in the squad 3 times this season and only made about 5 appearances last season.
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                          I disagree, playing Gomez at times is as much tactical as anything. Due to the height of Burnley attackers, Gomez was always going to play RB imo.

                          Providing he's fit, I see no reason why Clyne won't start getting some appearances.
                          If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                            Originally posted by RedReet View Post
                            I disagree, playing Gomez at times is as much tactical as anything. Due to the height of Burnley attackers, Gomez was always going to play RB imo.

                            Providing he's fit, I see no reason why Clyne won't start getting some appearances.
                            Gomez’s position is CB, I don’t think there’s any doubt about that now.
                            It’s not ideal that half of our 1st choice CB pairing is also having to fill in at RB.

                            Banging my head against a brick wall with the Clyne thing here
                            The guy hasn’t been an option since the season before last. He’s not officially injured, yet he’s still not being included in match day squads. Something is up there and he clearly isn’t currently being considered as an option by Klopp.
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                              Klopp said he's out for 2 weeks

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                                Klopp said he’s been out for 2 weeks.
                                Let’s face it, it’s been much longer than that.
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