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    He was a good young prospect but injury has robbed him of one of, if not the biggest asset he had - pace. And also robbed him of vital development time.

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      Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
      He was garbage tonight and been ropey this season but I disagree about the career comment Dan - he was superb beside VVD when we won the league
      So people keep saying, holding onto that that season beside peak VVD and the engine room midfield we had then. He is an awful CB imo that clearly hasn't been helped by injuries but his positional sense and beyond horrible and honestly he keeps on proving me right time and time again. No issues with having him as our 4th or 5th choice CB though as that's the standard he is :

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        Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
        He was garbage tonight and been ropey this season but I disagree about the career comment Dan - he was superb beside VVD when we won the league
        Yep. He was Englands best CB back then. That last injury has really set him back.

        I thought he was doing well at RB last season, he got a couple of assists and would be goood to see him in there to see if it shores things up a bit.
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          Originally posted by danperkins View Post
          So people keep saying, holding onto that that season beside peak VVD and the engine room midfield we had then. He is an awful CB imo that clearly hasn't been helped by injuries but his positional sense and beyond horrible and honestly he keeps on proving me right time and time again. No issues with having him as our 4th or 5th choice CB though as that's the standard he is :
          I might be over simplifying it but we need big strong lads - we miss Konate terribly. Matip was better when he came on and Joe is clearly 4th choice now

          Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
          Yep. He was Englands best CB back then. That last injury has really set him back.

          I thought he was doing well at RB last season, he got a couple of assists and would be goood to see him in there to see if it shores things up a bit.
          He also seems to be suffering from the same lack of concentration malaise as the rest. I think playing beside an awol Trent would make peak Baresi look **** now

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            We also need to find a way to rest Virgil. He plays every single minute of every single game. Such a shame Konate got injured in that 100% pointless friendly.
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              That’s really not an option unfortunately. He and Matip playing together is vital to our recovery.
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                Haven't seen a defender have an on field melt like that since Lovren against Spurs. There's **** and then there's what Gomez served up last night. Wow.

                We can only pray Matip stays fit until Konate gets fit as Gomez looks broken.
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                  I've never rated Gomez. Just haven't seen what the hype is about with this fella. He occasionally makes a last ditch tackle or block. Nothing more nothing less. Championship level player at best

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                    Originally posted by Assassin View Post
                    I've never rated Gomez. Just haven't seen what the hype is about with this fella. He occasionally makes a last ditch tackle or block. Nothing more nothing less. Championship level player at best
                    Hes ENGERLISH, rose tinited glasses applied

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                      I thought he was terrible vs Everton & I wanted him hooked for Matip in that match. I was really surprised to see him rated an 8/10 & that was few confirmed on here by a few ppl who thought he did well. I’m glad I didn’t watch this match if everyone agrees he was pants last night.
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                        He was decent v Everton, not outstanding but ok. He was directly at fault for two goals last night that took the game away from us (deservedly). The first one you have to clear your lines surely, the second he was bullied off the ball.

                        A bad night for him.
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                          Just watched the highlights from last night. Looked like Joe had an absolute disaster of a game. Some bad individual errors combined with a completely exposed back four never ends well. This needs fixing and soon.
                          Akloppalypse Now !

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                            Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                            He was decent v Everton, not outstanding but ok. He was directly at fault for two goals last night that took the game away from us (deservedly). The first one you have to clear your lines surely, the second he was bullied off the ball.

                            A bad night for him.
                            He should have cost us all 3 points by teeing up whoever it was.
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                              ‘could have, should have’ and you can argue we would have won the game. He played well enough v Everton. He was really bad last night, hooked at half time.
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                                Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                                ‘could have, should have’ and you can argue we would have won the game. He played well enough v Everton. He was really bad last night, hooked at half time.
                                Fact is a decent striker would have buried it. Ppl keep saying he needs a run of matches to get back to his best & I don’t think we can afford him that luxury
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