[COC] Stoke (H): Post Match

[Irishnev]

what Klopp said in his interview was very true Our players were ****ed, they were not playing that well, but they kept ****in going. There are a lot of miles on the clock but as a team we just kept going...... that is what good teams do.


For me, if Sturridge and/or Ings were fit all season, then we would be up there challenging for the league. Leicester are proving this year (and we did in 13/14) that if you can score a lot of goals then you can challenge. Fock we might even still have had Rodgers in charge then as well.... and if as a team we have an extra 20 goals then all of sudden people are very excited about the prospects of LFC....

For me, we just need goals. That is maybe why Teixeria would be a (potentially) brilliant signing.

Leicester are so similar to us that year - one game a week, v few injuries, strikers on form (Mahrez + Vardy), no expectation.............based on all of that I expect them to fail

[BigChief]

Agree with this, pack the bench with the nailed on's

-------------Ward
Clyne--Caulker--Ilori--Smith
-----------Stewart
-----Brannagan & Allen
-Ojo-----Benteke------Ibe

sort of thing

Agreed, but I'd rather see Kent or Tex starting over Ibe. Preferably Tex, with Kent coming on for Stewart later.

[Exiled_red]

I'd be playing a much younger team vs West Ham and keep the others fit for the Leicester game.

Ward, Caulker, Illori, Smith, Allen, Teixeira, Benteke etc

Agree with this, pack the bench with the nailed on's

-------------Ward
Clyne--Caulker--Ilori--Smith
-----------Stewart
-----Brannagan & Allen
-Ojo-----Benteke------Ibe

sort of thing

Surely Mignolet will start, coming off the back of a buzz like that, presumably his confidence will be fairly high. If we were to drop him straight after that hi confidence would be crushed.

[vlahka]

I'd be playing a much younger team vs West Ham and keep the others fit for the Leicester game.

I dont have much confidence in us reaching 4th so I'd switch that. Rather go hard for the FA Cup and ride luck for 4th. Which I really dont expect us to get.

[Shaggy]

[ame="https://youtu.be/nfDzxNIbZm4"]MS vs Stoke (H) 15-16 - YouTube[/ame]

[Chris]

Surprised at the lack of praise for him after last night, he was immense. Though his task wasn't too hard when he's up against filthy, useless lowlifes like that tory rat Walters.

[Rich]

Surprised at the lack of praise for him after last night, he was immense. Though his task wasn't too hard when he's up against filthy, useless lowlifes like that tory rat Walters.

He was great last night, apart from on one occasion when he let a ball bounce in the area - which no doubt clouded some people's perception on how he performed overall.

He was the big reason we didn't wilt under the aerial bombardment.

[Lecter]

He was great last night, apart from on one occasion when he let a ball bounce in the area - which no doubt clouded some people's perception on how he performed overall.

He was the big reason we didn't wilt under the aerial bombardment.

Thats a huge mistake to make though (and it happened more than once)

Its the type of thing you would wince at if you saw it in an U10's game

[Bender]

Couldn't defend when Rodgers was here and can't defend now Klopp is here,**** knows what they do in training and why the players can't do the basics,they must be THICK AS ****

[Daniel 7]

Surprised at the lack of praise for him after last night, he was immense. Though his task wasn't too hard when he's up against filthy, useless lowlifes like that tory rat Walters.

He was great last night, apart from on one occasion when he let a ball bounce in the area - which no doubt clouded some people's perception on how he performed overall.

He was the big reason we didn't wilt under the aerial bombardment.

..and he's clearly not playing at 100% fitness. That has to be taken into consideration too - did you notice the strapping on his leg? I think he's not playing to full form whilst battling to make himself available to play. Hope he isn't doing any long term damage.

[Chris]

..and he's clearly not playing at 100% fitness. That has to be taken into consideration too - did you notice the strapping on his leg? I think he's not playing to full form whilst battling to make himself available to play. Hope he isn't doing any long term damage.

Yep, he's defo not right. Hope he gets a breather v West Ham.

[redmike65]

Why Liverpool won that penalty shoot out http://www.penaltyshootouts.co.uk/research.html

Jordet, G., Hartman, E., Visscher, C. and Lemmink, K. A. P. M. (2006) Kicks from the penalty mark in soccer: The roles of stress, skill, and fatigue for kick outcomes. Journal of Sports Sciences, 1-9, Preview article.


This paper is an essential starting place for an analysis for the impact of penalty shoot-outs in competitive international football as it reports some empirical findings on events in penalty shoot-outs in the World Cup (WC), European Championships (EC) and the Copa America (CA). The results are fascinating; here is a glimpse. The percentage success rate in the World Cup is 71.2% compared to 82.7% (CA) and 84.6% (EC), possibly reflecting the greater importance and consequent pressure of the world stage. The success rate of each penalty kick changes throughout the competition:

First kick 86.6% (Lallana attacking midfielder full game) SCORED
Second kick 81.7% (Can central midfielder full game) MISSED
Third kick 79.3% (Benteke forward, 63 mins) SCORED
Fourth kick 72.5% (Firmino forward, full game) SCORED
Fifth kick 80% (Milner midfielder full game) SCORED
‘Sudden death’ kicks 64.3% (Lucas defensive midfielder full game),SCORED (Allen central midfielder 36 mins) SCORED

No defenders took a shot and one player aged over 29 took a shot, two subs took at shot both converted including the all or potentially nothing winner.

These results highlight the increasing pressure as the competition progresses and may also highlight the ‘best player should go first’ fallacy. The idea of ‘getting off to a good start’ by putting the best penalty taker first appears wrong as there is least pressure on this kick.


The researchers looked at the percentage success rate of players of different positions. Attackers successfully convert 83.1% of their penalties, midfield players convert 79.6% and defenders convert 73.6%.


The length of time the players have been on the pitch is also important. If they have played 30 minutes of less, their success rate is 86.7%, although, of course, this might include the occasional substitution to put a good penalty taker on the pitch. Players who have played between 31 and 90 minutes successfully convert 81.9% of penalties, and players who play longer than 91 minutes, convert 80% of their chances.


Age also seems important with younger players doing better. Players aged 22 or younger successfully convert 85.2% of attempts. Those aged between 23 and 28 convert 77.6%, and those aged over 29 years convert 78.1%.


The researchers conclude their paper by stating that their results demonstrate that the results of the penalty shoot-outs are not a lottery. Their results demonstrate that there are marked and logical patterns that repeat themselves time and again. The authors adopt a psychological stance on their results and they suggest that stress and anxiety may be important explanatory factors.

So does Klopp think shoot-outs are a lottery? Not as judged by the players that were chosen (unless they volunteered, could anyone tell watching the preliminaries in the huddle?) Even Can's miss off the post was only by a fraction.

[Fierce]

MS vs Stoke (H) 15-16 - YouTube

Surprised at the lack of praise for him after last night, he was immense. Though his task wasn't too hard when he's up against filthy, useless lowlifes like that tory rat Walters.

He was great last night, apart from on one occasion when he let a ball bounce in the area - which no doubt clouded some people's perception on how he performed overall.

He was the big reason we didn't wilt under the aerial bombardment.

Couldn't defend when Rodgers was here and can't defend now Klopp is here,**** knows what they do in training and why the players can't do the basics,they must be THICK AS ****

[Shaggy]

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