Post match Wolves debacle.

[Fredo]

I'm not that angry tbh. Feel a bit like I couldn't care less. The club have problems.

Which I think stems from the fact that we haven't won the league for a long time. Our mentality as fans on the whole isn't good enough. We moan, we bicker and think that the quick answer is to throw money at a problem.

[Daniel 7]

So what's the answer Fredo? Because blooding average youngsters isn't working either.

[Cormack74]

We have no chance against Chelsea in this form.

Conte is pragmatic. His team are comfortably ahead in the league and I would be amazed if he wouldn't be happy with a point. So I think we can safely assume his team will play exactly the same as our past 3 opponents albeit with a bit more quality.

And if they are ambitious and have more of the ball, perhaps that will mean that we get better opportunities to counter attack. By and large our best performances have come against teams that have had the ambition to attack us.

[cream]

I'm willing to bet that we'll come out of this slump soon. The signs are there.

Chelsea, arsenal, spurs. Good games to get us back on track.

[spud_gun]

Which I think stems from the fact that we haven't won the league for a long time. Our mentality as fans on the whole isn't good enough. We moan, we bicker and think that the quick answer is to throw money at a problem.

So just like every fan base the world over.

[Fredo]

So what's the answer Fredo? Because blooding average youngsters isn't working either.

Who's to say they're average? I can see talent there. They're not ready maybe, but you've got to give them a chance so that they learn.

The answer is patience. Let Klopp build this team up and things will get better. It's frustrating but it's not easy to get where we want to be.

[Daniel 7]

Conte is pragmatic. His team are comfortably ahead in the league and I would be amazed if he wouldn't be happy with a point. So I think we can safely assume his team will play exactly the same as our past 3 opponents albeit with a bit more quality.

And if they are ambitious and have more of the ball, perhaps that will mean that we get better opportunities to counter attack. By and large our best performances have come against teams that have had the ambition to attack us.


Maybe JK needs to be equally pragmatic and decide that after our recent form a draw wouldn't be the worst result.

But I doubt it.

Liverpool need wins, but the team look like they haven't got the belief to do it. They're plauying the most sterile, passionless, anodyne football I've seen since the back end of Brendan.

The side to side, back to central defence and repeat endless cycles almost suggest they have no faith in the forwards to do anything. Origi looks like he wants to hide, Sturridge is a fraction of what he was and Firmino looks useless in any position other than central.

We've ground to a halt. The fire seems to have gone out, and I refuse to believe its solely down to Mane not being there.

[frank the tank]

I actually think Woodburn will actually make it.

Wjinaldum has gone to ****. And if I never see Alberto the clown again then it would be a start. The guy who single-handedly cost us the Europa final last year continues to be a cluster**** every time his stupid ****in face is seen. Arsehole.


If we don't make top 4 this season then klopp will be under pressure. No matter what happens, we need 4 first teamer signings

[Fredo]

Not sure what Moreno did wrong today bar missing a pass for a perfect counter attack in the first half. We was always an outlet going forward and defended well.

[Daniel 7]

If we don't make top 4, I don't think getting rid of the manager is the problem. Where do we go then? We've churned up Rafa, Kenny and Rodgers over the last 10 years. Problems are at a higher level than the manager.

Klopp needs to be backed, significantly. Not just paying lip service - the club needs to be making proper signings we can all get on board with.

[red g]

I actually think Woodburn will actually make it.

Wjinaldum has gone to ****. And if I never see Alberto the clown again then it would be a start. The guy who single-handedly cost us the Europa final last year continues to be a cluster**** every time his stupid ****in face is seen. Arsehole.


If we don't make top 4 this season then klopp will be under pressure. No matter what happens, we need 4 first teamer signings

Klopp will be under no pressure imo. Scum, City Chelsea & Arsenal have spent **** loads more than Klopp, Pay bigger wages and have bigger squads.

On Paper we should be fighting out with Spurs for Europa League and unfortunately without bringing players thats where we may end up!!

[Daniel 7]

Not sure what Moreno did wrong today bar missing a pass for a perfect counter attack in the first half. We was always an outlet going forward and defended well.

He put in the first tackle that lead to the first goal, was caught in possession several times in the first half, he couldn't make a pass stick, mistimed tackles and looks like he's learned the sum total of **** all since he joined. Surely a bit of progress under a good manager is the least we can expect. He's utterly useless.

[Daffy Duck]

I actually think Woodburn will actually make it.

If by some miracle he doesn't get injured for three months every month, like most of our prospects do at some point, he should be fine. Looks quick, smart, brave and with a great touch.

No words on the game.

[Lecter]

We'll come out of it sooner rather than later. One game a week now and plenty of time to get things right in training. A scrappy win against Chelsea will get confidence back a bit hopefully. We're still trying to play our way out of it. I'd rather have that than see players panicking and lumping it up forward.

Passing it slowly is as bad as endlessly lumping it, in fact it's probably worse as teams can counter us easier

[Lecter]

Well you don't have to agree with me. You're just frustrated. We all are. It gets in the way of thinking.

Bearing in mind some of your thinking of the oast it might be better being frustrated