Leicester post match disappointment

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

It has to be a mentality issue, probably with some areas lacking quality.

To be unbeaten against the top 7/8 and be where we are is poor.. I've never felt so comfortable and confident playing the big sides and yet so sure we'll drop points against the fodder. Its unacceptable to have a team of game raisers, its just not on.

A look at our bench today as well, we need more.

[topscorer]

Your theory falls short though because Leicester didn't sit deep today.

They pressed us, gave us no time on the ball and scored. Then they got a second doing the same.

The second half they defended deep and got the third goal with a counter attack.

It was a perfect performance from Leicester and absolute **** from us.

Does anyone know our pass completion % and how it compares with the first few games of the season?

I've seen so many wayward passes this year, absolutely awful. And again today that's how they scored the first goal. Terrible pass in a comfortable position, Leicester gain possession on the half way line and 20 seconds later Vardy scores.

[baitman]

dont worry lads, it'll be alright mañana

[Shaggy]

Disgusted but I don't really know what to think. It's hard to know what's gone and is going wrong. Too many of our players are spineless and scarred from failure under Rodgers. We need leaders and winners and good ****ing players, and I trust Klopp to get it right. But this is hard to take after the first 3 or 4 months of the season.

[topscorer]

dont worry lads, it'll be alright mañana

Amen [emoji120]

[Leyton388]

Your theory falls short though because Leicester didn't sit deep today.

Not really as that's what's happened in the previous games. Sit deep and catch us on the break.

[Shaggy]

Firmino has gone to **** hasn't he. You think you know a player then it all goes tits up. It's best we accept we all know ****ing nothing and all we can do is judge what we're seeing in the here and now, and for now Firmino along with a few others isn't doing enough.

[Red_Polo]

For an Everton or a Leicester our position isn't THAT bad.

But for Liverpool it is. It's the same mediocrity that we have been suffering for years. It's the same form that eventually cost Rodgers his job.

We aren't in the position we are in with an upward momentum going into the close of the season. We are in this position in a downward momentum.

You can always skew the frame of reference to fit. Compared to last season, our position is pretty good. Compared to earlier this season, it's ****. Talking about 'an Everton or a Leicester' makes out as though anyone is suggesting this is ok for Liverpool to sit contently on - clearly that ain't the case.

We need to see this situation for what it is not what we are assuming it will be. The chances of our abysmal run continuing for the rest of the season are slim, as of course are the chance of us hitting the same excellent run that got us top of the league. In all probability we'll do something between those two and end up with a season that we can hold as progress, or not. But that is not determined by a couple months **** form in the new year any more than by being top of the table in December.

It is what it is - a **** spell following a great one. Time will tell whether it's a bump in the road or worse. But at the moment all we've really got is venting the recurrent frustration we know all too well.

[Kenneth]

Disgusted but I don't really know what to think. It's hard to know what's gone and is going wrong. Too many of our players are spineless and scarred from failure under Rodgers. We need leaders and winners and good ****ing players, and I trust Klopp to get it right. But this is hard to take after the first 3 or 4 months of the season.

I'm sure we will be back playing well and and doing well soon enough, hopefully consistently so next season. But there is no doubt that Klopp's inability to halt this terrible run by now is a personal failing and a blot on his reputation with fans and more generally.

But he's the best we're gonna get and we have to ride it out, give him real backing in the market, CL money or no CL money, and stop making a ****ing profit during transfer windows. Hoping for a messiah to perform miracles just ain't going to work. If we don't and next season is poor or inconsistent then we're just back to where we've been so often, almost competing and being a biggish name stepping stone for our best players.

[Red_Polo]

They went drinking but for ****s sake don't tell Fidget.

Firmino has gone to **** hasn't he. You think you know a player then it all goes tits up. It's best we accept we all know ****ing nothing and all we can do is judge what we're seeing in the here and now, and for now Firmino along with a few others isn't doing enough.

I think he's one of those players that thrives when the system works but struggles when it doesn't. We've got a few too many of those - excellent cogs in the machine, but too co-dependent.

[PTP]

I'm sure we will be back playing well and and doing well soon enough, hopefully consistently so next season. But there is no doubt that Klopp's inability to halt this terrible run by now is a personal failing and a blot on his reputation with fans and more generally.

But he's the best we're gonna get and we have to ride it out, give him real backing in the market, CL money or no CL money, and stop making a ****ing profit during transfer windows. Hoping for a messiah to perform miracles just ain't going to work. If we don't and next season is poor or inconsistent then we're just back to where we've been so often, almost competing and being a biggish name stepping stone for our best players.

I think this gets to the point

Doesn't matter who manages us...this squad is miles off being capable of challenging for a title and right now is in real danger of even finishing top four

Just look at our bench the last couple of months...it's horrendous. The squad needs four or five top class players.....we simply have to invest

What is worrying tho is the turnaround in form in individuals

Like shaggy has pointed out....firminho looked unplayable at times...he started to go off th boil very quickly, me personally gave him benefit of doubt as he looked shattered....he then looked brilliant against Spurs, has had a good break and should be 100 % and it was the worst I've seen him tonight

Also likes of origi, what the **** has happened there....scored five in five...looked pacy, strong, took people on, held the ball up....now he looks like he's never played the game

It just feels like something has gone badly wrong somewhere behind the scenes and I haven't a scooby what

Wijnaldum...a ****ing monster against Spurs....woeful tonight

Etc etc etc etc

[Shaggy]

Yeah the contrast in Gini v Spurs and tonight was unreal. He clearly thrives in the high intensity games against better sides, which is a bit mad really, but what the ****?

I reckon if he could Klopp would ship out 10 and bring in 15, but that's obviously not realistic. Klopp won the league with Dortmund in his third season - I think they were 6th, then 5th, then won it. He knows what he's doing and how to win titles, but the problem is he had one team to conquer there, really, and he didn't have the team who spent all season in ****ing 6th chucking £200m at it every ****ing summer.

[topscorer]

I'm sure we will be back playing well and and doing well soon enough, hopefully consistently so next season. But there is no doubt that Klopp's inability to halt this terrible run by now is a personal failing and a blot on his reputation with fans and more generally.



But he's the best we're gonna get and we have to ride it out, give him real backing in the market, CL money or no CL money, and stop making a ****ing profit during transfer windows. Hoping for a messiah to perform miracles just ain't going to work. If we don't and next season is poor or inconsistent then we're just back to where we've been so often, almost competing and being a biggish name stepping stone for our best players.

Hodgson, Rodgers & Klopp have all been dancing to the FSG financial model tune.

It's easy to say it's a project and you need time to develop young players but it won't work.

I have no doubt Klopp is our best hope, maybe even last hope to bring success. If he fails what next? It will be a hail mary give Gerrard a chance or something.

Klopp still has the support of FSG, the players and the supporters. I think this summer he has to have the balls to say **** this you need to give me all the top players I want this summer whatever the cost. Yes I'll develop Academy players but I need a core of A grade winners to place the academy players around.

If he doesn't do this I fear he will go the same way as Rodgers and if he fails I will lose all hope because who can you seriously bring in to replace Klopp and expect to do better than he can?

[PTP]

Yeah the contrast in Gini v Spurs and tonight was unreal. He clearly thrives in the high intensity games against better sides, which is a bit mad really, but what the ****?

I reckon if he could Klopp would ship out 10 and bring in 15, but that's obviously not realistic. Klopp won the league with Dortmund in his third season - I think they were 6th, then 5th, then won it. He knows what he's doing and how to win titles, but the problem is he had one team to conquer there, really, and he didn't have the team who spent all season in ****ing 6th chucking £200m at it every ****ing summer.

It's not realistic but it's what needs doing

I'm not one to slag our owners off.....but right now this side needs a minimum of 5 top class players and arguably another 3.....just to compete in and challenge/win something....that's a huge investment and something i can't see happening unless we have a Man City/Chelsea/Utd type spending spree

We need leaders/ top class pros who will not accept standards slipping...

All teams and individuals have bad days but could u imagine that performance from some of those players if we had hyppia, carragher, mascherano, Suarez etc in the squad

In fact just imagine now....luis Suarez will to win no matter what....imagine how he would have reacted being part of that tonight...he'd have gone ****ing mental

[Fosterbloke]

I hope we can buy some players that aren't afraid to turn into the opposition rather than turn away.

I observed Pedro, Hazard and Costa doing this a lot for Chelsea, they turn into the opposition, push them back, make small passes/touches/adjustments which gives them the space they need to shoot or pass for a goal.