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  • Kenneth
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    Originally posted by peterbread View Post
    No one looks good from any of this. It puts so much pressure on the club and everyone will have to deal with it and the endless questions about Mo and Slot and his man management. Even if he leaves in January the questions will be asked especially if the form continues to be poor.

    I hope the owners are ruthless and sort out what’s going on behind the scenes and they get rid of any trouble makers no matter who they are.

    My first thought about his comment about promises wasn’t about playing time but a replacement being signed before he leaves with all the talk about Semenyo.
    Explain.

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  • Kenneth
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    Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
    This will split us and none of us know, our bias will tilt us one way or the other. The club has publicly imploded tonight and Salah has been the catalyst, that is bad. However, I think Slot should be doing more to get the best from him and sacrificing him when others are as bad if not worse is a bad look for me
    Come on, that's a bit melodramatic.

    Firstly, other than Konate and kerkes, nobody has been worse this season. And he won't defend. You can't "go back to basics" with him in the side. The idea to shift him to the middle and let him have a go a at being a CF might sound interesting as a theory, but it's not something you actually do, in actual games, at the expense of actual centre forwards. He's done at this level, and if anything, Slot left it far too long to make the call to drop him. If he's done it weeks ago things might not have got this bad for us.

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  • peterbread
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    No one looks good from any of this. It puts so much pressure on the club and everyone will have to deal with it and the endless questions about Mo and Slot and his man management. Even if he leaves in January the questions will be asked especially if the form continues to be poor.

    I hope the owners are ruthless and sort out what’s going on behind the scenes and they get rid of any trouble makers no matter who they are.

    My first thought about his comment about promises wasn’t about playing time but a replacement being signed before he leaves with all the talk about Semenyo.

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  • Kenneth
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    Originally posted by kingfunk View Post
    Don’t be fooled, there will be plenty of big clubs in for him, not just Saudi. Pep is a bit fan, wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest.
    Nah. Nobody with the funds to pay his wages is moving for him other than the Saudis.

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  • kingfunk
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    Don’t be fooled, there will be plenty of big clubs in for him, not just Saudi. Pep is a bit fan, wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest.

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  • Exiled_red
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    Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
    But he isn’t the third highest scorer in the history of the club and a key figure in our most recent successes. Salah should not have spoken out but he said that the manager is not speaking to him. The guy is a legend and deserves respect while he feels he is not getting, for him to go to the press shows dysfunction.

    Yes he’s been poor but change his role then, use him differently, he’s still technically superb and a brilliant finisher. Gakpo has been taken off but he starts game after game and mills so much of our play.

    We are not going to agree here, Salah isn’t right here but he isn’t fully wrong and for me Slot needs to shoulder a lot if the blame as well

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  • Irishnev
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    Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
    Senior players aren't saying things like this, only Mo Salah is about his own situation. He thinks he owns his position in the first team and that the idea of dropping him in favour of another option is scapegoating. It's one deranged ego dealing badly with playing like **** week after week. Sure, that's toxic, and it puts extra pressure on Slot because there's still no proof that life after Mo is going to go well, but if he goes and a replacement does the business, the squad and the fans etc will more on quickly imo.
    This will split us and none of us know, our bias will tilt us one way or the other. The club has publicly imploded tonight and Salah has been the catalyst, that is bad. However, I think Slot should be doing more to get the best from him and sacrificing him when others are as bad if not worse is a bad look for me

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  • Exiled_red
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    Originally posted by BootRoom View Post
    You're not saying there is or isn't a split, but you're doing your best to rationalise one? Is that it? Here's my rationalisation of the situation: The vast majority of the dressing room will be delighted to see Salah go, and will have a non-stop 48 hour party to celebrate the departure of a dude that thinks he is way, way bigger than the Club.

    Salah had a bust up with Klopp on the touch line, so he's not backward in coming forward and letting people know what he's about, which is HIM.
    Clearly stuff isn't right in the dressing room or on the pitch at the moment, something like this comes out and it just makes you wonder what is going on.

    No idea what people in the dressing room think of Mo's ego, but I suspect no-one/very few people will be happy to see him go, he will be a good friend to most and I suspect many will realise the contribution he made in getting them a PL winners medal last season. Even if those same people think his form has dropped this season and are frustrated with his lack of tracking back I suspect that at most they will feel torn about the situation.

    If his relationship with the manager is broken beyond repair it looks like he will leave in January. While that might be the best for the team going forward the guy is a legend and it will be sad/difficult to see him leave in such circumstances.

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  • Kenneth
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    Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
    I said in an earlier post with the video that it was unprofessional by Mo and that he has form. The fact that senior players are saying stuff like this is a sign that things are not right, we can see it on the pitch and that’s on the manager. Also Gakpo has been as bad if not worse and he’s rolled out constantly.

    It could be some ploy by Edward’s and Hughes to force him out, **** knows. It’s very sad for it to end like this
    Senior players aren't saying things like this, only Mo Salah is, about his own situation. He thinks he owns his position in the first team and that the idea of dropping him in favour of another option is scapegoating. It's one deranged ego dealing badly with playing like **** week after week and facing consequences. Sure, that's toxic, and it puts extra pressure on Slot because there's still no proof that life after Mo is going to go well, but if he goes and a replacement does the business, the squad and the fans etc will more on quickly imo.
    Last edited by Kenneth; 06-12-25, 11:20 PM.

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  • Irishnev
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    Originally posted by BootRoom View Post
    Gakpo has been on the bench and hooked from games; you're acting like he's played every minute of every game to make your point.

    And that senior-player-speaking-out-is-bad angle is nonsense - it's Mo Salah complaining - a man with a massive ego - that is crying about being on the bench for a few games after stinking the place out. Is Slot not allowed to bench Salah, otherwise he is responsible for the fallout from a petulant outburst?
    But he isn’t the third highest scorer in the history of the club and a key figure in our most recent successes. Salah should not have spoken out but he said that the manager is not speaking to him. The guy is a legend and deserves respect while he feels he is not getting, for him to go to the press shows dysfunction.

    Yes he’s been poor but change his role then, use him differently, he’s still technically superb and a brilliant finisher. Gakpo has been taken off but he starts game after game and mills so much of our play.

    We are not going to agree here, Salah isn’t right here but he isn’t fully wrong and for me Slot needs to shoulder a lot if the blame as well

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  • BootRoom
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    Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
    Not saying there is or there isn't, we don't usually have this type of info being leaked from LFC, but we rarely (in recent years) have had good players who have had fall outs with the managers (there have been a few like Balotelli or Diouf who you suspect not many people would side with).

    Salah has obviously been a big player for us in recent years and is popular in the dressing room and is one of the leadership group, the manager is relatively new, so I suspect there could be a difficult dynamic in there. Perhaps not so much people pushing that Salah should be in the side but perhaps split loyalties which wouldn't help.
    You're not saying there is or isn't a split, but you're doing your best to rationalise one? Is that it? Here's my rationalisation of the situation: The vast majority of the dressing room will be delighted to see Salah go, and will have a non-stop 48 hour party to celebrate the departure of a dude that thinks he is way, way bigger than the Club.

    Salah had a bust up with Klopp on the touch line, so he's not backward in coming forward and letting people know what he's about, which is HIM.

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  • baitman
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    Originally posted by ChesterDave View Post
    Should of took the 250 million. Will get about half that now.
    I reckon no more than 60m.

    We should have a poll.
    Nearest gets the right wing gig till the end of the season.

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  • Exiled_red
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    Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
    I said in an earlier post with the video that it was unprofessional by Mo and that he has form. The fact that senior players are saying stuff like this is a sign that things are not right, we can see it on the pitch and that’s on the manager. Also Gakpo has been as bad if not worse and he’s rolled out constantly.

    It could be some ploy by Edward’s and Hughes to force him out, **** knows. It’s very sad for it to end like this

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  • ChesterDave
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    Should of took the 250 million. Will get about half that now.

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  • Exiled_red
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    Originally posted by BootRoom View Post
    IF there is a Salah faction, they can follow him out the door. But I'd say the chances of a faction lobbying for Salah are slim; just idle gossip from people posting bollocks for the sake of it.
    Not saying there is or there isn't, we don't usually have this type of info being leaked from LFC, but we rarely (in recent years) have had good players who have had fall outs with the managers (there have been a few like Balotelli or Diouf who you suspect not many people would side with).

    Salah has obviously been a big player for us in recent years and is popular in the dressing room and is one of the leadership group, the manager is relatively new, so I suspect there could be a difficult dynamic in there. Perhaps not so much people pushing that Salah should be in the side but perhaps split loyalties which wouldn't help.

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