Post match mid table mediocrity (away at Spurs) thread

[Gibbo]

Harry Kane deffo dribbles when he sleeps.

[Daniel 7]

Bit of a watershed moment here I reckon. I cant recall us losing games in manner too often.

Some big decisions need to be made. I hope thats the last we see of Lovren, Id rather stick with Gomez, and at least see how he gets on. Mignolet... He just does this too often. All four goals were defensively catastrophic. Karius is next in line for Klopp, but I wouldnt mind seeing Ward in goal.

How we respond is probably going to have a big say in how our season maps out.

I'd agree there. There seems to be little point in sticking with Lovren especially and Mignolet long term. Ward is the same age to the day as Karius - what is the point in not giving him a chance - Mignolet adds nothing so we wouldn't be missing his experience or presence if he was dropped.

Lovren - if he was injured today, that display was all on Klopp. He's limited enough without handicapping him further by playing him against the best striker in the league with an injury. I'd argue we would have been better off keeping Skrtel than Lovren.

[Tatterdemalion]

Looking on the bright side, he subbed Lovren early doors, so perhaps the penny has finally dropped, and he's already decided that he doesn't want Mignolet CL cup tied, so perhaps we will see some change here. But on reflection ( and mea culpa for agreeing with it ) not signing CBs who could challenge Lovren, Klavan and Gomez was an error.

I still believe the money is there and I still believe that FSG were willing to spend it, but if I were an owner I'd be having second thoughts right now. Would rather save it for the second coming of Rafa..

[Daniel 7]

We've not really found any consistency since last Christmas. Personally, I don't think he'll turn things around, I think positively and belief is a major part of his style and the longer the averageness goes on the harder it will be for him to convince the players that they have it in them.

Agree here too. Momentum seems to be against him and I can;t see anything changing. UNless we go out and spend hugely in January, but even then he'd wait until they were fully assimilated before using them.

I'm waiting for someone to play the Lallana is the key card. I hope I don;t read it.

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

Harry Kane deffo dribbles when he sleeps.

Surprised he survives the night without drowning.

[Nicey]

Harry Kane though ... **** me what pace that lad has

[Gibbo]

Stats show the difference between a good and bad defence. We dominated with no goals, they scored whenever they felt like it.

[Tatterdemalion]

I'd agree there. There seems to be little point in sticking with Lovren especially and Mignolet long term. Ward is the same age to the day as Karius - what is the point in not giving him a chance - Mignolet adds nothing so we wouldn't be missing his experience or presence if he was dropped.

Lovren - if he was injured today, that display was all on Klopp. He's limited enough without handicapping him further by playing him against the best striker in the league with an injury. I'd argue we would have been better off keeping Skrtel than Lovren.

Lovren's own point I believe (perhaps I'm wrong), is that he has been paying with injury and painkillers for quite a while (not just today). But then at the end of the previous season (not last one) he was blaming having to play in an expansive style.

[Buzzo]

We look ****e without Mane.

There are basically 2 types of goal we score without Sadio. Coutinho Worldie or Salah in behind. Mane gives teams lots more to think about.

Throw in Lallana and we have very little to worry about going forward.

We just need to stop haemorrhaging goals at the back.

[Gibbo]

We look ****e without Mane.

We basically have 2 types of goal without Sadio. Coutinho Worldie or Salah in behind. Mane gives teams lots more to think about.

Throw in Lallana and we have very little to worry about going forward.

We just need to stop haemorrhaging goals at the back.

Another worry is that two of our best players (Lallana and Mane) seem to be painfully injury prone.

[Bender]

Total ****. Sack Klopp/Parry/Lovren/Fredo.

[Norbs]

Get Ward in goal against Huddersfield.

Trent right back, Gomez Matip and Robertson.

Gini back in midfield too.

[BobTheCharmer]

If lallana hadn't been missing I reckon we would be right up there. He's the key.

[kemm1]

We look ****e without Mane.

I don't agree. Lovren changed the entire game today from the start putting us in that two goal whole. We were just swimming upstream from then.

[Gibbo]

Can see Klopp is fuming.