Arsenhole away BUILD UP thread

[Lecter]

This is getting a bit silly now.

Last time we genuinely battled for honours for more than a season we had Gerrard, Mascherano and Alonso in MF. Three players who would be wanted by any side in the world. Now we have Can who might get some games for Juve and the rest wouldn't get a game at another top six team. We need a totally different class of player in the middle of the pitch if we want to progress beyond top four contenders.

You could say exactly the same about our defenders and keepers

[memzey]

We’re not going to challenge with Mig in goal. Forget about it. In front of him we have issues in defence and at holding midfield (we lack one) but first thing’s first please - a top notch keeper between the sticks quickly followed by a classy, dominant and great in the air centre half please. We are pretending to compete until we address these problems.

[Shaggy]

Still cannot believe what happened last night. We are so close to being a properly special team, it's unbelievably frustrating.

[Paul12]

Still cannot believe what happened last night. We are so close to being a properly special team, it's unbelievably frustrating.

And we have been here a few times over the last 20 plus years; the key is what happens next. We think we will lose Couts and Can and we know we will gain Keita. All in all, that is backwards so the other people bought/developed need to turn that into net progress.

[RedSpartan]

Still cannot believe what happened last night. We are so close to being a properly special team, it's unbelievably frustrating.

It is incredibly frustrating. We are very special as an attacking force, an equal if not better than Man City, but we are are barrel of turd in relation to defending. I'm getting very tired of the constant inability to be able to put our foot on the ball, and kill off a team at 2 or 3 goals up. That is hard to come to terms with... being so dominant in attack and still fearing that when we concede one we go to pieces.

Klopp needs to get his sh!t together and buy a fooking defence, keeper and and a commanding midfielder that can lead and keep a cool head. Ohh and while he's at it can he please relieve Henderson of the captaincy, the guy is a waste of space, offers nothing to the team, and has the captaincy skills of twig

[labourRed]

And we have been here a few times over the last 20 plus years; the key is what happens next. We think we will lose Couts and Can and we know we will gain Keita. All in all, that is backwards so the other people bought/developed need to turn that into net progress.

There is a real possibility of just treading water. We're certain to lose Coutinho and reinvest about 70% of it, or whatever, we're used to knowing what happens when you sell your best players and it's not progressing.

[Fosterbloke]

I think we'll be stronger next season, Lemar aside, we're not targeting any other attacking players, it's all midfield and defence.

[Kenneth]

There is a real possibility of just treading water. We're certain to lose Coutinho and reinvest about 70% of it, or whatever, we're used to knowing what happens when you sell your best players and it's not progressing.

Even treading water is difficult in the PL these days. There are 3 teams who will massively outspend us every window and we are fighting arsenal and spurs for fourth unless we have a really good season every now and then, or one of the three have a mare. That's our level and we could easily finish 4th or 6th in a reasonable year. To challenge the 'bigger' (richer) three consistently is a huge step. And that assumes other clubs don't suddenly get massive injections of money like Everton have.

[Fosterbloke]

Would Kasper Schmeichel be a good signing?

[Chris]

Nah he’s ****ing ****.

[Fosterbloke]

Ffs this ref is giving Utd everything and **** all to Leicester. Maguire certainly had a penalty shout but Moss wasn't even looking at him!

[Kenneth]

OK.

[Liverpool]

One thing about the game yesterday we should have 5 in the first half, then any defensive errors in the second become irrelevant.

[labourRed]

Even treading water is difficult in the PL these days. There are 3 teams who will massively outspend us every window and we are fighting arsenal and spurs for fourth unless we have a really good season every now and then, or one of the three have a mare. That's our level and we could easily finish 4th or 6th in a reasonable year. To challenge the 'bigger' (richer) three consistently is a huge step. And that assumes other clubs don't suddenly get massive injections of money like Everton have.

That is fair. We're about 4 players away from being a great side IMO that could compete at the top, that's almost half a team.

[Fosterbloke]

That is fair. We're about 4 players away from being a great side IMO that could compete at the top, that's almost half a team.

No, it's just over a third!