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I have always found him hard to judge and tbh I still don't really know what his game is or his best position. He obviously has skill, but the eye for goal, quick link play and directness that we used to see early days has yet to reappear. I am reserving judgement at the moment and he is a definite keeper as a squaddie who may come good.
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He's definitely improving, IF he can stay fit he might still come goodish.
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Where are these fans posting out of curiosity? Genuine question, as all I've seen is relentless abuse this year.Originally posted by Mr Pink View Post
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Not sure whether that is a factor within the club, but it certainly is a factor with the section of fans who give him a pass. He’s not a youngster anymore. A young player sure, but he’s been on the professional scene a few years now- I don’t think he’s gonna develop any more than he has, especially given that he’s not really noticeably better now, at nearly 22 than he was at 18/19 when he made his debut. If he didn’t push on in those 3 years, do we really think he’s gonna make it as a player who’s good enough to be in our first 11?
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I saw a few signs of this last night when he got caught on the ball. I think when he can lift his head up he's capable of picking out some nice passes like the through ball to Mo.Originally posted by Pablo View PostI think he lacks vision. For me that is his biggest weakness. Most of his passes seem to be sideways or backwards. He is not progressive enough with the ball.
I actually think the lack of vision is also the root cause of him holding onto the ball too long, or giving the ball away, he simply can't see the better options that someone like Thiago and Harvey Elliot can.
He was played out of position last night and I thought he did a good job. He could have scored and he created a couple of chances. He worked tirelessly and pressed well.
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Playing devils advocate, does he have to be good enough for our first 11? It's a squad game we don't have the resources of City etc we can't have a squad of 25 world class players. If the academy can produce players who aren't first choice but can come in and do a job, that is still an important role within the squad and allows us to focus spending on top quality players rather than spending £20-30m on a squad player.Originally posted by Mr Pink View Post
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Not sure whether that is a factor within the club, but it certainly is a factor with the section of fans who give him a pass. He’s not a youngster anymore. A young player sure, but he’s been on the professional scene a few years now- I don’t think he’s gonna develop any more than he has, especially given that he’s not really noticeably better now, at nearly 22 than he was at 18/19 when he made his debut. If he didn’t push on in those 3 years, do we really think he’s gonna make it as a player who’s good enough to be in our first 11?
The problem with our squad at the moment is the players who should be first choice are too injury prone and the players who should be just squad players are starting too many games as a result.
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Originally posted by Mr Pink View Post
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Not sure whether that is a factor within the club, but it certainly is a factor with the section of fans who give him a pass. He’s not a youngster anymore. A young player sure, but he’s been on the professional scene a few years now- I don’t think he’s gonna develop any more than he has, especially given that he’s not really noticeably better now, at nearly 22 than he was at 18/19 when he made his debut. If he didn’t push on in those 3 years, do we really think he’s gonna make it as a player who’s good enough to be in our first 11?
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Originally posted by Mr Pink View Post
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Not sure whether that is a factor within the club, but it certainly is a factor with the section of fans who give him a pass. He’s not a youngster anymore. A young player sure, but he’s been on the professional scene a few years now- I don’t think he’s gonna develop any more than he has, especially given that he’s not really noticeably better now, at nearly 22 than he was at 18/19 when he made his debut. If he didn’t push on in those 3 years, do we really think he’s gonna make it as a player who’s good enough to be in our first 11?
And i am not too sure that he played well last night either. If that was "done well" then our standards are ****e. We were way better when nunez replaced him. I actually think had nunez started, we may have won the group
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Originally posted by SB View PostI wonder if he wasn’t home grown if things would be different?

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Not sure whether that is a factor within the club, but it certainly is a factor with the section of fans who give him a pass. He’s not a youngster anymore. A young player sure, but he’s been on the professional scene a few years now- I don’t think he’s gonna develop any more than he has, especially given that he’s not really noticeably better now, at nearly 22 than he was at 18/19 when he made his debut. If he didn’t push on in those 3 years, do we really think he’s gonna make it as a player who’s good enough to be in our first 11?
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I like him, but just not at the level we neeed to compete at the top.
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For a youngster coming back into a disjointed side after a decent lay off , that’s been shifted around since returning I’d say he’s done well in this match. I’m not his biggest fan & honestly thought he’d be better off sent out on loan this season if we’d had enough players to allow that but this season must be his chance to prove he’s worthy of his jersey. I wonder if he wasn’t home grown if things would be different?Originally posted by Harv View PostI wouldn't go so far as to say he did "well". He was ok IMO. Didn't really do a lot, didn't create much, held onto the ball for far too long at times, didn't hit the target when shooting, heading. A standard Jones game really. Nunez would be getting pelters if the shoe was on the other foot
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I wouldn't go so far as to say he did "well". He was ok IMO. Didn't really do a lot, didn't create much, held onto the ball for far too long at times, didn't hit the target when shooting, heading. A standard Jones game really. Nunez would be getting pelters if the shoe was on the other foot
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I’ve always seen him as a more attack minded player & no surprise to see him do well as the wide striker role that Diaz normally plays.
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Had a bad start, but grew into the game. He's still painfully slow and ponderous on the ball.
Another one of those young players like Elliott and Carvalho that just doesn't seem to have a spot in our formation
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I think we can't really judge him on his first game after a long layoff, coming into a team decimated by injuries and loss of rhythm. I'll have go at someone else for now, loads of options to have go at.
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