Alisson Becker

[SB]

This is the daftest discussion on here for a long while, and the bar is set pretty high

Merry Xmas you Wallies

Your welcome

Your welcome what?

For apparently starting the daftest discussion on here in a long while

[baitman]

Your welcome what?

Mat?

[Norbs]

Your welcome

Your welcome what?

[Norbs]

I was speaking authoritatively

[SB]

This is the daftest discussion on here for a long while, and the bar is set pretty high

Merry Xmas you Wallies

Your welcome

[memzey]

Anyway - that Alisson, what a ****ing keeper hey?

[Mark79]

Was specifically in reference to the line of argument about "criticism" of him rather than uncertainty, which is a very different and entirely reasonable thing if that's what you meant

Anyway this has all had us reprobates rambling on far too long. Have a good Chrimbo if I don't catch you matey

It is and you're right, what was supposed to be a straightforward acknowledgement of fair concerns turning out to be unnecessary somehow spiraled into a drawn out mess

Happy Christmas to you too

[Assassin]

This is the daftest discussion on here for a long while, and the bar is set pretty high

Merry Xmas you Wallies

[Buzzo]

We are arguing about the merit of the evidence we had for being wrong effectively.

But acknowledging it beautifully

[Roboklopp]

This is the daftest discussion on here for a long while, and the bar is set pretty high

Merry Xmas you Wallies

We are arguing about the merit of the evidence we had for being wrong effectively.

[Red_Polo]

I only disagreed with that in so much as that's not what I or everyone who was uncertain about JA were actually doing.

Was specifically in reference to the line of argument about "criticism" of him rather than uncertainty, which is a very different and entirely reasonable thing if that's what you meant

Anyway this has all had us reprobates rambling on far too long. Have a good Chrimbo if I don't catch you matey

[Norbs]

This is the daftest discussion on here for a long while, and the bar is set pretty high

Merry Xmas you Wallies

[Roboklopp]

Yes, it is. Difference is that a head coach / manager is responsible for a huge number of things with a high degree of autonomy and we have a huge number of surrogates as evidence with which to judge them against.

A GK coach works with a lower level of autonomy and there are such an extremely small number of surrogates to use as evidence that it becomes almost total guesswork.

I didn't infer you said JA was the problem. I do however agree with the assertion you took issue with, where it was pointed out that those who did hold him to blame were making 1+1=3.

There are fewer examples to judge him by but they have far clearer correlation.

Like I’ve said, I feel the need to defend Pepe79 here.

[Mark79]

Yes, it is. Difference is that a head coach / manager is responsible for a huge number of things with a high degree of autonomy and we have a huge number of surrogates as evidence with which to judge them against.

A GK coach works with a lower level of autonomy and there are such an extremely small number of surrogates to use as evidence that it becomes almost total guesswork.

I didn't infer you said JA was the problem. I do however agree with the assertion you took issue with, where it was pointed out that those who did hold him to blame were making 1+1=3.

I only disagreed with that in so much as that's not what I or everyone who was uncertain about JA were actually doing.

[Red_Polo]

Is this not what we as fans judge coaches and managers on all the time?

I'm sure you have opinions on LFC managers, Solskjaer, Silva, Emery, etc.
What exactly are you ultimately forming those on, if not what you see on the pitch?

And no, I never said JA was THE problem. Just that the concern was he was the constant factor, so maybe that was part of the issue.

Yes, it is. Difference is that a head coach / manager is responsible for a huge number of things with a high degree of autonomy and we have a huge number of surrogates as evidence with which to judge them against.

A GK coach works with a lower level of autonomy and there are such an extremely small number of surrogates to use as evidence that it becomes almost total guesswork.

I didn't infer you said JA was the problem. I do however agree with the assertion you took issue with, where it was pointed out that those who did hold him to blame were making 1+1=3.