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    #841
    I agree with everything that’s been said about Harvey so there’s no point in sticking the boot in.

    So if Harvey is not yet ready (physically), Henderson is blowing hot and cold, Thiago and Keita are very injury prone, Fabinho has been sluggish and Jones has hardly kicked the ball this season …how can the board/club not see the need for a midfielder now in January??

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      #842
      Originally posted by Harv View Post
      The same Firmino that didnt score a goal for a year?
      IIRC Firmino didn't score at Anfield for about a year, but he scored about 10 goals away from home in that time. Yes he is a patchy goalscorer but can be a composed finisher when he gets the chances. He averages a goal about every 3 appearances (some of which are apps from bench). Elliott hasn't really played as a forward, but personally I haven't yet seen anything from him that would suggest he is capable of that type of goal return at this level (he had about 1 in 6 on loan at Blackburn in the Championship).
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        #843
        Originally posted by Maxiedge View Post
        I agree with everything that’s been said about Harvey so there’s no point in sticking the boot in.

        So if Harvey is not yet ready (physically), Henderson is blowing hot and cold, Thiago and Keita are very injury prone, Fabinho has been sluggish and Jones has hardly kicked the ball this season …how can the board/club not see the need for a midfielder now in January??
        When Gakpo is available, we can push Ox back into midfield

        It's not just this year it's been obvious for a few that Ox and Naby aren't available enough, Milner is too old to play regularly, Henderson is heading the same way. Thiago is great but needs his minutes managed. I can only assume we have believed that either Elliott or Jones would have developed sufficiently and/or that Ox/Naby would miraculously come good.
        The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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          #844
          It is easy to forget he is still only 19, but I agree with the sentiment. When he starts in a midfield 3 we don’t perform as well as a unit. He seems to have the discipline but then doesn’t have involvement meaning the other 2 can become exposed. Not sure he quite gets the role.

          The worry here is that he is clearly a gifted footballer - but - does he have an obvious place in our formation? The biggest problem he has is his size he can get over run quite easily. Worth sticking with him to see how he develops but he is not good enough to be a starter for us yet. Curtis Jones is definitely ahead of him but seems to be permanently injured.
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            #845
            Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
            The worry here is that he is clearly a gifted footballer - but - does he have an obvious place in our formation? The biggest problem he has is his size he can get over run quite easily. Worth sticking with him to see how he develops but he is not good enough to be a starter for us yet. Curtis Jones is definitely ahead of him but seems to be permanently injured.
            Agree with this and I think the same applies to Carvalho and Jones as well. I think if we moved to 4231 then they slot nicely together in the three, but as it stands I don’t know where they really fit and they’re not good enough (yet) to make us change formation in order to fit them in.

            I think Elliott and Carvalho can make it here. Sadly for Jones he’s stagnated but playing him for 18 months as a Wij replacement probably didn’t help with his development. Still time though if he can put his niggling injuries behind him as he’s clearly a talent.

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              #846
              Elliott has bags of talent and will make it. But our midfield needs to be able to physically press and Elliott is not built for it. We should be playing him as a false nine. We dont really have many better options in midfield, but it is clear he has an eye for a through ball and a fantatic first touch.

              Id be gutted if he did not make it, but playing him in midfield will only help his development. I dont think playing him and Thiago is a great mix, but if he had two bigger chaps.palying in there, then ehen he grows out he might be more suited.
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                #847
                Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                It is easy to forget he is still only 19, but I agree with the sentiment. When he starts in a midfield 3 we don’t perform as well as a unit. He seems to have the discipline but then doesn’t have involvement meaning the other 2 can become exposed. Not sure he quite gets the role.

                The worry here is that he is clearly a gifted footballer - but - does he have an obvious place in our formation? The biggest problem he has is his size he can get over run quite easily. Worth sticking with him to see how he develops but he is not good enough to be a starter for us yet. Curtis Jones is definitely ahead of him but seems to be permanently injured.
                I think the injury he had is impacting him more than we realise. At the start of last season, the only goal we conceded when he played was the fortuitous corner against Chelsea and he was generally excellent. Not sure what the answer is now as he is struggling atm.
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                  #848
                  Still, he’s miles better than £100m Jack Grealish, which is something I suppose.
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                    #849
                    A great little munchkin, but sell.
                    removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                    too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                      #850
                      Originally posted by baitman View Post
                      A great little munchkin, but sell.
                      You think we should sell a highly rated teenager who hasnt finished growing?
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                        #851
                        Originally posted by Charly View Post
                        You think we should sell a highly rated teenager who hasnt finished growing?
                        Bournemouth will give us 40m for him.
                        He'd be great at five a side or subbuteo but it's a full size pitch and he's still trouser shopping at mothercare.
                        removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                        too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                          #852
                          Originally posted by Harv View Post
                          Yep, he seems to make everyone else worse when he plays that midfield 3 role. He just doesn't have the game to play that role.

                          Not sure why he's not tried in more of a Firmino type role as a false nine. He could actually do ok there as he's a crafty little bugger at times and slipping passes through for Mo and Nunez could be tasty.

                          At this stage if someone offered stupid money for him and Jones i'd snap their arms off. I don't think either will ever be truly elite. Especially Jones
                          I've said this before too - he's got the vision, passing, close control and shooting skills to play there. Perhaps it's all about minutes and learning how the midfield works in order to be a better Firmino?
                          Was muß, das muß.

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                            #853
                            Originally posted by Fosterbloke View Post
                            I've said this before too - he's got the vision, passing, close control and shooting skills to play there. Perhaps it's all about minutes and learning how the midfield works in order to be a better Firmino?
                            Yeah I feel Klopp has a plan & this is part of his development
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                              #854
                              Originally posted by SB View Post
                              Yeah I feel Klopp has a plan & this is part of his development
                              Was muß, das muß.

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                                #855
                                Will never make it at Liverpool. Sell.

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