Liverpool vs Chelsea - UEFA Super Cup

[Buzzo]

VAR on decisions re pens will always be inconsistent. Different ref and video ref every game. Things are rarely ever clear cut.

Offside will always be right. It's black and white.

This is why VAR is the biggest cunts trick ever introduced to football.

You have long pauses, crowds celebrating no goals, players half celebrating waiting to check if it's good. I did last night, didn't celebrate until it was 100% ruled no foul play. Wolves manager nailed it, it's killing the spirit of the game in the hope of achieving perfection. Can't or won't ever happen.

That offside rule (the playing on part) is nonsense it totally skews the perception of the game. The two ‘goals’ were clear offsides and they played on until Chelsea scored shot for everyone involved. Hitting the back of the net has to give a boost to a forward and negates the skill in a well organised defence.

What VAR needs to be clear on is that it is still human interpretation of data, the rules seem to be trying to make it almost robotic despite clear evidence. Human intervention on the evidence is still necessary.

There will still be some mistakes, of course, but VAR should be there to eliminate most of them. As it stands I think they are making an unnecessary mess of it.

[Rafa Justice]

Utter bollocks. He was already going down before Adrian got to him. The perspective of the bilder is crap, there was at least 0.5 metres between them at this point. Tammy, lovely male name then went completley splayed and stiff legged to make it look worse and topped it all off with a forward somassault (sp) He is a cheating diving cunt

Another thing, he absolutley bottled his pelanty. He scared, nervous and couldnt focus prior to taking it

Fantastic that the cheating prick bottled the pen

[Norbs]

When we've suffered 'human error' and conceded unfair goals we've dreamed of a fair resolution. VAR for offside is great and I guess it needs to result in a shot on goal to work correctly.

[Leyton388]

Who cares if it was a pen or not? We won and they lost when the diving cunt missed his pen so it's all good.

[Chris]

Beautiful birra justice with that gob****e missing his pen. Can only imagine the chaos and uproar around the country today if it was Salah cheating like that. Also not quite sure how we weren't given a pen in the first half for that handball, we've seen handballs given for a ball clipping a guys fingernails down by his side nowadays yet a defender trying to be a goalkeeper is fine? Bizarre. Mount was also about 2 yards in the area when Jorginho took the pen. Not a great day for the officials or VAR. Again.

Anyway, glad we beat them ****s and the 100 fans they had over there went home unhappy. Absolute nothing club.

**** knows how we are meant to find the energy to win on Saturday now, special shout out to Uefa for having a potential extra time game in ****ing August and the Premier League for knowing that and making us play Saturday anyway. We seem to be a bigger game for Southampton fans than Portsmouth now and they give us hell for 20mins in each half last year so it's gonna be extremely tough but somehow we seem to overcome nearly every obstacle put infront of us.

[danperkins]

I know VAR failed and ref made the mistake but where the **** was the hot lino? She should have had a crystal clear view of that incident.

[Kenneth]

Do we still need linos now, other than throw in decisions? They aren't really needed for offsides, if the ref gets other big decisions wrong then Var can cover it. If the ref needs a second pair of eyes then use the VAR ref in communication in real time.

[Havors]

VAR didn't fail per-say. The stupid rules surrounding how it can be used failed. Oh and the ref for jumping to an (incorrect) decision.

The ref was great until that point. She was not sure that was a pen and the moment she gave it VAR became pretty pointless. VAR wont overturn that decision unless there was a clear yard of daylight between them.

Once the ref has given the pen VAR will go out of its way to support the ref unless it cant... that is the stupid way in which VAR is currently used.

She should have given the goal kick and then let VAR decide if it was a pen... that is the easier and less controversial way of dealing with it.

I hope eventually VAR will be an actual 5th official supported by the VAR team and can make decisions independently, that the ref must respect as they have the benefit of the technology.

I find it typical that after a season where we would have won the league with VAR we instantly suffer at the bull**** shortcomings in the rules on how it can be used.

[Havors]

That offside rule (the playing on part) is nonsense it totally skews the perception of the game. The two ‘goals’ were clear offsides and they played on until Chelsea scored shot for everyone involved. Hitting the back of the net has to give a boost to a forward and negates the skill in a well organised defence.

What VAR needs to be clear on is that it is still human interpretation of data, the rules seem to be trying to make it almost robotic despite clear evidence. Human intervention on the evidence is still necessary.

There will still be some mistakes, of course, but VAR should be there to eliminate most of them. As it stands I think they are making an unnecessary mess of it.

The offside changes are a ****ing joke. Taking an already convoluted rule and making it even more so.

Defenders are now required to carry on defending/playing until they play concludes. This can end up putting the defence in an disadvantaged position i.e. under pressure in possession.

Not to mention that the play continuing could lead to an injury... very unlikely but still a possibility.

Also, the gaining an advantage from an offside position has now seemingly been ****ed off completely and you are allowed to.

[SB]

I thought both our centre backs did well last night but Gomez looked lost & half asleep way too often. I’d expect Trent, Matip , VVD & Robo on the weekend.

[Fan65]

It has to be said the officials on the pitch did a good job

What? by giving a penalty where there wasn't one.

[labourRed]

Beautiful birra justice with that gob****e missing his pen. Can only imagine the chaos and uproar around the country today if it was Salah cheating like that. Also not quite sure how we weren't given a pen in the first half for that handball, we've seen handballs given for a ball clipping a guys fingernails down by his side nowadays yet a defender trying to be a goalkeeper is fine? Bizarre. Mount was also about 2 yards in the area when Jorginho took the pen. Not a great day for the officials or VAR. Again.

He could have been ten yards inside the box and VAR wouldn't do anything if the ref doesn't.

VAR only comes into play on encroachment if the ball comes back into play, then there's a foul and obviously any subsequent goal is ruled out.

[Kenneth]

I thought both our centre backs did well last night but Gomez looked lost & half asleep way too often. I’d expect Trent, Matip , VVD & Robo on the weekend.

Same. We were badly exposed by the midfield (and Matip's passing), but individually, Matip, VVD and Robbo defended very well.

[Tribute]

VAR on decisions re pens will always be inconsistent. Different ref and video ref every game. Things are rarely ever clear cut.



Offside will always be right. It's black and white.



This is why VAR is the biggest cunts trick ever introduced to football.



You have long pauses, crowds celebrating no goals, players half celebrating waiting to check if it's good. I did last night, didn't celebrate until it was 100% ruled no foul play. Wolves manager nailed it, it's killing the spirit of the game in the hope of achieving perfection. Can't or won't ever happen.

1,000,000% this. Completely agree.

[Kenneth]

But the City CL semi final was funny af, don't forget that.