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    Originally posted by SB View Post
    I thought both our centre backs did well last night but Gomez looked lost & half asleep way too often. I’d expect Trent, Matip , VVD & Robo on the weekend.
    Gomez clearly isn't a full back, he's a good CB but positionally he looks lost at full back and he doesn't offer much going forward.
    The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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      Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
      That offside rule (the playing on part) is nonsense it totally skews the perception of the game. The two ‘goals’ were clear offsides and they played on until Chelsea scored shot for everyone involved. Hitting the back of the net has to give a boost to a forward and negates the skill in a well organised defence.

      What VAR needs to be clear on is that it is still human interpretation of data, the rules seem to be trying to make it almost robotic despite clear evidence. Human intervention on the evidence is still necessary.

      There will still be some mistakes, of course, but VAR should be there to eliminate most of them. As it stands I think they are making an unnecessary mess of it.
      I have said all along that I don't believe that sufficient thought or explanation has been given to the fans as to how it works and particularly what it's limitations are. It's been presented as the magic solution which is going to ensure we get correct decisions for key incidents when in fact all it really is doing is in the case of penalties is ensuring we don't get the hideously bad errors, the moderate errors are still there. Contrast that with offside where there is this belief that you can get perfect calls everytime (personally I am sceptical about the ability to do this with the precision suggested).

      Anyway personally I don't think VAR adds much to the games if we can perfectly determine a player is a cm offside, but we can't decide whether something should or shouldn't be a pen.
      The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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        i reckon i could make a more reliable offside call than a linesman by using sky+ within 5 seconds of the pass. Just give the VAR the control, let on-field refs work under them, make decisions asap, and apply them on the field straight away. It wouldn't be perfect but would be a better balance, and we're can't be far off from AI refereeing on certain aspects (such as offside) in the top flight, and it would just need plugging to that process.
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          https://www.facebook.com/672143578/p...6818314318579/
          removing all the weak links makes us stronger

          too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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            You'd imagine the abuse was coming from opposing fans, then you realise it's Chelsea

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              Yeah I thought that initially also. It seemed unusual (but not impossible) considering the makeup of the team that finished the match for us about as diverse and cosmopolitan as you could wish to see.

              Chelsea fans really are the lowest of the low.
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                Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                Gomez clearly isn't a full back, he's a good CB but positionally he looks lost at full back and he doesn't offer much going forward.
                Well if Gomez isn’t reliable to cover either fullback role, as we’d expected he might, it leaves us threadbare in cover doesn’t it! How long is Clyde out for?
                Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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                  Originally posted by SB View Post
                  Well if Gomez isn’t reliable to cover either fullback role, as we’d expected he might, it leaves us threadbare in cover doesn’t it! How long is Clyde out for?
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                    Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                    that’s fringing auto correct for ya
                    Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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