Liverpool vs Wolves - Premier League (19/20 - Game 19)

[ChesterDave]

By my calculations we are on 101 points from a rolling 38 games

[dom9]

You're purely speculating that the process is flawed as you haven't sat in the control centre and don't know the process they're applying.

Have you read my previous post?

[danperkins]

We've only benefitted by a legitimate goal standing, you're making it sound like we sneaked in an incorrect goal.

We can all agree that the way it's being implemented is poor though

completely correct decision by the current process.

[baitman]

A nervey game, but we march on.

Btw, you do know there is a var thread

[dom9]

Poor performance but great 3 points. Why are people debating vara decision in this game.. it was spot on. Currently as it stands the offside goal is offside by the current rules of the game.

Is var still dependent on some human? Yes. Is it perfect? Nope. Can they improve it? Absolutely, but currently by the letter of the law their goal was clearly offside.. the end.

If it's not perfect, then there is a margin of error, then that should be taken into account.

[RichC]

We've only benefitted by a legitimate goal standing, you're making it sound like we sneaked in an incorrect goal.

We can all agree that the way it's being implemented is poor though

Our goal was 100% valid I’m not arguing that at all.

In fact I’m not actually arguing anything to do with Liverpool more that VAR is being used poorly across the board. The goal they had disallowed was not a clear and obvious error much like the one Mane had disallowed earlier in the season. As a football fan I think it’s a blight on the game at the moment purely based on its implementation.

[danperkins]

If it's not perfect, then there is a margin of error, then that should be taken into account.

But every team is in the same boat. It is not perfect but the players hand is clearly off. Is it ridiculous? Yip but those are the rules everyone is going by. Completely correct decision by the current var rules. Tech says it is offside, it is just his hand but those are the rules whether we like it or not.

[Kenneth]

These fine margin offsides are obviously troublesome, but I don't understand why people keep saying 'it wasn't a clear and obvious error by the linesman'. That concept does not come in to play at all for offside decisions, which are regarded as a matter of fact.

[ChesterDave]

But every team is in the same boat. It is not perfect but the players hand is clearly off. Is it ridiculous? Yip but those are the rules everyone is going by. Completely correct decision by the current var rules. Tech says it is offside, it is just his hand but those are the rules whether we like it or not.

That's not the rule though. The rule is any body part you can legally score from so his hand is not important

[dom9]

But every team is in the same boat. It is not perfect but the players hand is clearly off. Is it ridiculous? Yip but those are the rules everyone is going by. Completely correct decision by the current var rules. Tech says it is offside.

That's irrelevant.

They're making decisions measured in millimetres and microseconds based on tech that is not accurate enough to make those judgement calls with certainty.

Since when did a hand count as being offside anyway?

[danperkins]

That's not the rule though. The rule is any body part you can legally score from so his hand is not important

Tell that to Maradona

[Norbs]

Our goal was 100% valid I’m not arguing that at all.

In fact I’m not actually arguing anything to do with Liverpool more that VAR is being used poorly across the board. The goal they had disallowed was not a clear and obvious error much like the one Mane had disallowed earlier in the season. As a football fan I think it’s a blight on the game at the moment purely based on its implementation.

The delay is crap but not sure that's going to improve over time. As Rudedog said earlier, offside doesn't fall under clear and obvious error and is being implemented to the millimetre so is going to appear harsh when the margins are so tight.

Unfortunately any part of the body that you can score with is included but it would be better if it was done purely on feet

[danperkins]

That's irrelevant.

They're making decisions measured in millimetres and microseconds based on tech that is not accurate enough to make those judgement calls with certainty.

Since when did a hand count as being offside anyway?

I never said I agreed with the way VAR has been implemented and the tech does need to improve.... especially the transparency, the angles and the time to make decisions.

I think with whole armpit offside earlier in the season they set a precedent. On the goings of the season and how offside var has been used.. that was offside. I am not saying I personally agree with it but that is the way var is being used.

[Norbs]

Have you read my previous post?

I glanced at it

Having now read it, I still think you're speculating as you're not part of the process or privy to it

[danperkins]

We won who cares