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    Originally posted by danperkins View Post
    Allison got nowhere near any of them. Brewster 90 seconds on pitch wasn't the smartest move to take a pen.
    Yeah I don't like that as a tactic, bringing on a guy just to take a penalty. Also adds to the pressure when the guy has barely played for us.
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      Originally posted by McDermotX View Post
      Don't EXPECT the keeper to save them really, but I wonder how much preparation is really done.

      Only went the right way for Luiz maybe ? Don't recall, but Arsenal's pens looked decent.
      Yeah i noticed that, not expected to save them i agree, but having knowledge of the opposing players & reading the play is fairly basic stuff; not blaming Allison totally though, as when martinez was being coached by the arsenal coach at full time, Allison was left to his own devices

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        Almost happy not to win what with that 'presentation'.
        "I will make the boys feel your support"
        Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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          Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
          Yeah I don't like that as a tactic, bringing on a guy just to take a penalty. Also adds to the pressure when the guy has barely played for us.
          was a strange one, as i think Gini is more than capable; but perhaps Klopp wanted to put him in that pressure situation & see how he reacted?

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            Originally posted by McDermotX View Post
            Don't EXPECT the keeper to save them really, but I wonder how much preparation is really done.

            Only went the right way for Luiz maybe ? Don't recall, but Arsenal's pens looked decent.
            How much prep can you do for a shootout? You can learn where regular (in game penalty takers) put them and try to feed that info to your keeper, but how many of those guys do you have data on. In a world cup or something you probably have a range of guys who take them for their clubs. Look at our takers only Salah has taken one in a match for us, Fabinho took them at a previous club, but that's probably it.
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              Originally posted by S-RED View Post
              was a strange one, as i think Gini is more than capable; but perhaps Klopp wanted to put him in that pressure situation & see how he reacted?
              Yeah I had assumed Mane, Keita and Wijnaldum would all be potential pen takers, so I was a bit surprised Jones took one as well
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                Starting to really dislike Arteta too, looking forward to seeing them finish mid table next year playing 9 behind the ball

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                  I was worried when he started that little running on the spot stutter step ****e.
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                    Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                    Not arsed about losing it, we weren't good enough. Feel sorry for Brewster though

                    Don't know about that, we played very well I thought, numerous very near moments that come off on another day.

                    Feel for brewster but I've no idea how a pro striker hits the bar. They've all done it though.

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                      Originally posted by fidget View Post
                      I was worried when he started that little running on the spot stutter step ****e.
                      yeah, wouldn't do it in a game so don't do it for a pen

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                        Like at the emirates, had the chances, to slack in front of goal. nice to see the front 3 + Taki & Naby on the pitch together

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                          Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                          How much prep can you do for a shootout? You can learn where regular (in game penalty takers) put them and try to feed that info to your keeper, but how many of those guys do you have data on. In a world cup or something you probably have a range of guys who take them for their clubs. Look at our takers only Salah has taken one in a match for us, Fabinho took them at a previous club, but that's probably it.
                          More prep around reading a player in the act really.....never really bought into this 'dossier of peno takers' idea that floated around from some GKs, but its clear that some keepers are better than others for a variety of reasons.
                          Like I said, I don't expect the keeper to make the save in the shootout, the odds being more weighted towards a miss to account for a blank, or a complete bottle job with the keeper playing the odds with his position.

                          Without looking back, Arsenal's pens appeared decent, even the little dinked one, but Alisson never got near them at all, and probably only went the right way for Luiz. Ours were decent as well, and TBH, their keeper was probably similar....just unfortunate with Brewster.
                          "I will make the boys feel your support"
                          Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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                            Originally posted by BG1973 View Post
                            Don't know about that, we played very well I thought, numerous very near moments that come off on another day.

                            Feel for brewster but I've no idea how a pro striker hits the bar. They've all done it though.
                            Hopefully it's a negative experience that he can learn from and it will help him to develop in a better player who won't do it again. I'd rather he do it in the Community Shield that in a game that really matters.
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                              Tammy Abraham missed the decisive penalty for Chelsea against us in the UEFA Super Cup last season, and, although he was distraught on the night, he didn't seem to give a **** after that.

                              So yeah, an opportunity for Brewster to react positively to it.

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                                Feel like it’s odd to bring him on just before the final whistle, for penalties- unless it was someone like Salah/Milner who have a great penalty record for us...

                                Puts too much pressure on Brewster and sends a bad message to Gini that last years miss hasn’t been forgotten..

                                Also why was Brewster/Jones taking penalties, but not Mane!
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