Ozan Kabak

[Norbs]

Sign another couple maybe?

[Exiled_red]

Partnering surely. There's a player in there and if you drop him now you may as well send him back.

Not sure with the stuff some people are posting...

[Bloodraven]

Not sure with the stuff some people are posting...

He's a Kebab apparently.

[baitman]

I said it before, but I dont know why Nat Phillips is not starting. He may not be the worlds greatest footballer, but he feels "solid", which is what we need. Panic buying 2 kids was never going to rescue our backline, and I would rather Hendo and Phillips played as 1st choice. Wouldnt have saved Hendo, mind.

Completely agree.
If we bought someone for 20m and they were as good as Philips then we be ok with that, so why would we sell a very decent 3rd or 4th choice solid centre back.

[Chazza]

[Peter_Griffin]

He’s a 20 year old defender playing in a team running low on confidence. He’s going to be inconsistent. He’s 20! He’s the same as every 20 year old defender in the game

[Doc_Piptorious]

He’s a 20 year old defender playing in a team running low on confidence. He’s going to be inconsistent. He’s 20! He’s the same as every 20 year old defender in the game

This!



And to add to that, he has come from a team that sat deep, rarely attempted a high line or catching teams offside further up the pitch, and is a couple weeks in a new team/league/country.

[Chazza]

Not like he was pulling up trees in Germany though was it?

I appreciate we are skint and have to deal in a certain pool of players but he is rash getting booked in every game so far and today he was struggling to do the basics

If you are gonna spend a few quid on Davies who at least knows the tempo of the game over here then surely he is a better bet to start with.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Not like he was pulling up trees in Germany though was it?

I appreciate we are skint and have to deal in a certain pool of players but he is rash getting booked in every game so far and today he was struggling to do the basics

If you are gonna spend a few quid on Davies who at least knows the tempo of the game over here then surely he is a better bet to start with.

He won young player or rookie of the season in Germany in his first or second season there so fair to say he was catching the eye.

People were gushing about him in here on Tuesday night now there seems to be a line of people saying him, Thiago, Salah, Mane etc etc are ****, divers and what not.(not saying you called Kabak or others that, but there are plenty of reactive (understandably after another loss) posts that are just writing players off for one reason or another.



The blame for our current awful form is collective and that goes from the manager down.

The same way when we do well the credit should be collective as well.

We are doing poorly in the league at present, but the players we have are what we have until the end of the season. It is up to Klopp and the players available to fight their way out of this slump

[Chazza]

Get all of that but the thread relates to the player and at the moment he’s not looking up to it.

I don’t think anyone can say he’s looked good enough so far, he might come good but we don’t have time to play with someone who is going to make mistakes.

[Fredo]

I think Kabak is playing instead of Davies because we’ve been tracking him for some time and is clearly rated by the scouting team, whereas Davies is purely an emergency backup option. Kabak not doing the basics is the situation we’re in, having to delve into the transfer market at the last minute and no time to have players fit in our system instead of doing it in pre season. It’s basically experimenting with team selections at the back in a live environment.

[Maxiedge]

That ****ing header at the start for the corner talk about starting the game confidently. Him and Thiago were at fault for a poor start but why were they so apprehensive. Shouldn't we have come out of the blocks? So odd.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Get all of that but the thread relates to the player and at the moment he’s not looking up to it.

I don’t think anyone can say he’s looked good enough so far, he might come good but we don’t have time to play with someone who is going to make mistakes.

He was decent for the most part against Leicester, good against Leipzig and had a rough time in a derby game.

Three games with a new team, a team that is struggling just as badly without him. The guy was brought in to be a potential fourth choice centre back and has yet to play a game for us with another CB beside him.

But to go with what you are saying then. We drop him, so who do we play at CB for the next run of games? Fabinho is out, Henderson is out.

Phillips who looks even more limited than Kabak and Davies who has yet to play for us? And if one or both of them are not pulling up trees straight away, what then?


We are down to the bare bones at the back, and now it looks like we are reaching a similar point in midfield. So it is going to be a matter of picking players and sticking with them in the short term and hope that they do not get caught out too much.

[Fredo]

Ozan Kabak

That ****ing header at the start for the corner talk about starting the game confidently. Him and Thiago were at fault for a poor start but why were they so apprehensive. Shouldn't we have come out of the blocks? So odd.

The wind played to that as well. Never felt comfortable dealing with the fight of the ball first half.

[Chazza]

He was decent for the most part against Leicester, good against Leipzig and had a rough time in a derby game.

Three games with a new team, a team that is struggling just as badly without him. The guy was brought in to be a potential fourth choice centre back and has yet to play a game for us with another CB beside him.

But to go with what you are saying then. We drop him, so who do we play at CB for the next run of games? Fabinho is out, Henderson is out.

Phillips who looks even more limited than Kabak and Davies who has yet to play for us? And if one or both of them are not pulling up trees straight away, what then?


We are down to the bare bones at the back, and now it looks like we are reaching a similar point in midfield. So it is going to be a matter of picking players and sticking with them in the short term and hope that they do not get caught out too much.

I would do with Davies over him now. He’s played at a level below for a good few seasons and should be given a go.

Depending on who his fit next week then I would go Davies and Fab or Davies and Phillips just not seeing it with Kabak at all.