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[Buzzo]

Starting to see why Klopp was so big on the 5 subs. We were absolutely crushing it back then.

All our boffin stats stuff must be miles out on this season with so many games.

[ronanm]

Horrible season. But if it takes him 3 years to turn it round I don't care.

[topscorer]

Phillips was injured. Davies a mystery. If he can't even get on the bench with Nat injured and Rhys Williams warming the bench, he might as well go back to Preston now.

That signing was 100% a business transaction me thinks. They'll flip him for a profit next summer.

[npinn001]

We cant keep on assuming that it is all just going to click into gear, when its not clicking into gear.



I literally wouldnt care if we lost having tried something different with our formation, we definitely have the players to do so. Who knows. We might even win, because we tried something different.



Thiago is really good on the ball, but defensively doesn't have the legs in a three when we are not dominating the ball. He is a luxury player, and these are not luxury times.

It's exactly right, it's not just going to click. There's an element of forcing it a bit too much at the moment. It's pointless going into games with zero goal thereat and a high probability we will concede 1. It's bonkers.

Fabinho back to midfield will help alot. He was so out the game yesterday and was actually not very effective at all.

Jota looked good, was pleased to see that. Hopefully he can cure the goals piece.

But my word, this is madness. Rinse, repeat, same result.

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[Fosterbloke]

We are total cock custard right now.

I still think Thiago is **** in this team, we need three machines in midfield to release the creativity of the attack and full backs.

[npinn001]

We are total cock custard right now.

I still think Thiago is **** in this team, we need three machines in midfield to release the creativity of the attack and full backs.

Yep. Thiago is the type you bring on late in the game to ping a pass or to see the game out by passing it around. Bad fit for us.

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[Exiled_red]

Last night's defeat means that we have lost more PL games at Anfield in our last 5 than we have in all than in all of Klopp's reign prior to that

[Rich]

I can’t find of any team anywhere that has totally collapsed to the extent we have.

Relegation form. Can’t get my head around it.

Biggest challenge of Klopp’s career now.

[npinn001]

I can’t find of any team anywhere that has totally collapsed to the extent we have.

Relegation form. Can’t get my head around it.

Biggest challenge of Klopp’s career now.

Purely speculative, but I can imagine a world where klopp asked the owners to get him a top class centre back on Jan 1st, and they didn't. He tells them top 4 is going to be tough. They still don't. They he gets one player he won't play and another that seems a bad fit at the end of Jan. And now he's sick of being expected to work miracles when they don't back him so why bother changing things.

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[Norbs]

Not much talk this morning of being robbed of a penalty for handball. Yes he was close but BOTH his arms were raised and at angles to make him I bigger target

Similar will he given against us in the next few games no doubtb

[npinn001]

Not much talk this morning of being robbed of a penalty for handball. Yes he was close but BOTH his arms were raised and at angles to make him I bigger target

Similar will he given against us in the next few games no doubtb

I know. Arms weren't in a natural position. Well, it's natural if you're being held at gunpoint, but that's about it.

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[Norbs]

Purely speculative, but I can imagine a world where klopp asked the owners to get him a top class centre back on Jan 1st, and they didn't. He tells them top 4 is going to be tough. They still don't. They he gets one player he won't play and another that seems a bad fit at the end of Jan. And now he's sick of being expected to work miracles when they don't back him so why bother changing things.

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Those miracles would be easier if he stopped playing midfielders in defence. A 75% defender in defence has surely got to be better than a 100% midfielder there, especially if it leaves midfield weekened too. Sounds a bit like Klopp is throwing his toys out of the pram if what you say is true.

[Norbs]

I know. Arms weren't in a natural position. Well, it's natural if you're being held at gunpoint, but that's about it.

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I didn't watch the after match autopsy, was it even brought up? Earlier this season it'd have been back page news.

[Shaggy]

Not much talk this morning of being robbed of a penalty for handball. Yes he was close but BOTH his arms were raised and at angles to make him I bigger target

Similar will he given against us in the next few games no doubtb

When you think of the pen given against Gomez at City, and then that ****show last night...****ing disgrace.

[npinn001]

Those miracles would be easier if he stopped playing midfielders in defence. A 75% defender in defence has surely got to be better than a 100% midfielder there, especially if it leaves midfield weekened too. Sounds a bit like Klopp is throwing his toys out of the pram if what you say is true.

I just think it's a no win situation. If he achieves top 4, he gets a budget now but they won't back him when needed in the future because he's shown he can do it without. If he doesn't get top 4, he doesn't have a budget but maybe he gets backed next time,if he stays around.

I dont think he's doing anything deliberately. I'm just saying I know if be frustrated if my employer didn't back me after the kind of track record klopp has, so it would make you think why bother.

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