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    Originally posted by danperkins View Post
    Matip reminds me of Agger is that way so progressive and injury prone I suppose, slaloms out of defence and gets us up most of the pitch, pushes team back. Unfortunately I don't hink he possesses the strike of Agger although it might be hilarious to see him try take a 30 yarder

    Think Agger's shooting accuracy and goal threat is a tad exaggerated with hindsight.

    He scored nine league goals for us from 175 games. Matip is already on 8 from 125 games. VVD has 13 from 129 games.
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      Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious View Post
      Think Agger's shooting accuracy and goal threat is a tad exaggerated with hindsight.

      He scored nine league goals for us from 175 games. Matip is already on 8 from 125 games. VVD has 13 from 129 games.
      I don't think Agger and Matip are comparable from a technical or shooting point of view, my comment was in jest referring to how ungainly Matip looks on times. I'm talking more so from them both being" progressive CB's, CB's who can break the lines and push us higher up the pitch and I would argue that this season Matip is more progressive than Agger ever was. For me, Matip was a much better "defender" than Agger ever was.

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        Agger was good, Matip is top tier. No real comparison for me.
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          Originally posted by Charly View Post
          Agger was good, Matip is top tier. No real comparison for me.
          Always thought Agger was a bit over rated imo as you don't see many ball playing CB's out there which he was, unfortunately he wasn't the best defender.

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            Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
            Quietly, this guy has been absolutely outstanding. Almost a stealth first teamer so subtley has he made himself a fixture in the team. We can now rest either VVD or Joel, and we do not lose anything. Had Lukaku in his pocket in the FA Cup Final.

            Only 22 and playing in the most unforgiving position and he just doesn't ever put a foot wrong.

            What a signing.

            What a player.
            Apart from the Benfica mistake, where he literally put a foot wrong..
            Was muß, das muß.

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              Originally posted by danperkins View Post
              I don't think Agger and Matip are comparable from a technical or shooting point of view, my comment was in jest referring to how ungainly Matip looks on times. I'm talking more so from them both being" progressive CB's, CB's who can break the lines and push us higher up the pitch and I would argue that this season Matip is more progressive than Agger ever was. For me, Matip was a much better "defender" than Agger ever was.

              Yeah I would think the same and also say that he is a better footballer full stop. Matip this season has been at VVD's level.

              Matip is a bit funny at times as he looks quite gangly, but he runs or used to run (not been over in a while so don't know which) in Sefton Park at times, and if he goes by you you notice pretty quickly that he is a unit. He has that sort of frame that from a distance looks thin but up close he is put together in a manner similar to a younger Lenox Lewis, all lean muscle.

              Big part of why you rarely see him bullied by strong forwards or notice him having difficulties with them.

              Only thing I wish he had more of in his locker is a bit more aggression/forwardness in terms of being a vocal leader/organiser at the back, but, much like when he was like at Schalke, he has a Keeper and CB partner looking after that side of things around him.


              The scary thing, for other teams, is that we have a young guy in Konate who may well have the potential to be better than either of VVD or Matip in a few years time.
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                Outstanding tonight,

                What a player we have here.
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                  Yeah. Our MOM.

                  I still rate Matip slightly ahead as he is a but more cultured with the ball... But there is not much in it. 3 world class centrebacks. We still have the best backline in the world. Top class backup too apart from Trent.
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                    Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                    Outstanding tonight,

                    What a player we have here.
                    He was outstanding. Our best player by a mile.
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                      Originally posted by Charly View Post
                      Yeah. Our MOM.

                      I still rate Matip slightly ahead as he is a but more cultured with the ball... But there is not much in it. 3 world class centrebacks. We still have the best backline in the world. Top class backup too apart from Trent.
                      On tonight's evidence Konate can add that to his game. He went on a couple of runs bringing the ball out of defence, and had a couple of other instances where he feigned one way while under pressure to create some space. If he does develop the technical side of his game the sky is the limit when added to his physical attributes.

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                        Yes, played great. Not a problem area for us for sure
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                          Konate played brilliantly and has improved all season.

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                            And he's only going to get better !
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                              Yeah he was brilliant last night. What a signing.
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                                Another sleeper signing. He's immense. Practically bullied Vinicus in the first half especially.

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