Final game: Liverpool v Wolves (h)

[Exiled_red]

We also had draws that felt a little lucky at the time like the 2-2 draws against Chelsea and City. We were hanging on in both games.

Way I see it is a team getting 92 points over the course of a season has done amazingly well, and the fact a team has pipped us twice when we finished on over 90 points is astounding.

The totals that won the title over the past six years are nuts

93
86 (which is now starting to look like a low total)
99
98
100
93

Seems you now need to be in the 90s just to be competing for the title and in six years only different three teams have broken the 90 point mark.

The question is can the bar be pushed even higher in years to come and will it take regular 100 point seasons to win the title then.

I don't think you can push the bar much higher, to get 92 points we have only dropped points in 10 games - that's dropping 22 points over a whole season, to get 100 you can't drop more than 14 points which is asking alot unless the quality of the league drops

[Mr Pink]

Feels even worse this morning, sober, and watching the highlights back. Yesterday morning, it was a free hit for me- was expecting city to win, but hoping they’d slip up- no pressure on villa. But after they had a 2 goal lead on 76 minutes, to conceded 3 goals in 5 minutes is a tough one to take. Would have been a lot more disappointing if we were leading already, before villa collapsed. Also would have been a lot harder to take, if both teams dropped points.

It’s been an incredible effort and have nothing but pride for our team- just annoying that villa didn’t hold on, especially when they had a 2 goal lead and all. With the gerrard factor, it really would have been the best ever end to a season. I think it would have ranked ahead of the aguero moment.

[vlahka]

Impossible to know as I have already said here and others too.

It changes the approach to the other games. We might have picked a different starting 11 for Southampton, we might have picked up injuries, Citeh might have approach WHU different and won.

My point was people here are mocking tottenham. But they seriously tripped us up right at the end. Everyone could have done different things if we'd won, but I think thats not really a strong enough reason to shrug it off as a lesser important moment in the season compared to previous ones. The most recent is the most important.

If city had fielded a stronger team against West ham, mind you their entire squad is strong anyway, they could have been weaker against aston villa and not got the 3 goals in 5 minutes. You cant just say if we beat tottenham then city would have won every game and we'd have lost another. Makes no sense. If we had beaten city or tottenham, I believe we would have won the title. And thats going on by how the team has played in the past and the rotation patterns and Peps refusal to use subs at times.

[Doc_Piptorious]

the draws earlier in the season when we were riddled with Covid cases were more damaging imo.

We also had draws that felt a little lucky at the time like the 2-2 draws against Chelsea and City. We were hanging on in both games.

Way I see it is a team getting 92 points over the course of a season has done amazingly well, and the fact a team has pipped us twice when we finished on over 90 points is astounding.

The totals that won the title over the past six years are nuts

93
86 (which is now starting to look like a low total)
99
98
100
93

Seems you now need to be in the 90s just to be competing for the title and in six years only different three teams have broken the 90 point mark.

The question is can the bar be pushed even higher in years to come and will it take regular 100 point seasons to win the title then.

[Buzzo]

There are hundreds of moments and results that could have gone differently. It's easily done when it's the most recent one, but focusing on Spurs seems a bit daft when we picked up 50 out of the last 54 points. Not being absolutely perfect isn't exactly a huge flaw or fault

[Tribute]

There are hundreds of moments and results that could have gone differently. It's easily done when it's the most recent one, but focusing on Spurs seems a bit daft when we picked up 50 out of the last 54 points. Not being absolutely perfect isn't exactly a huge flaw or fault

the draws earlier in the season when we were riddled with Covid cases were more damaging imo.

[wiw]

Impossible to know as I have already said here and others too.

It changes the approach to the other games. We might have picked a different starting 11 for Southampton, we might have picked up injuries, Citeh might have approach WHU different and won.

There are hundreds of moments and results that could have gone differently. It's easily done when it's the most recent one, but focusing on Spurs seems a bit daft when we picked up 50 out of the last 54 points. Not being absolutely perfect isn't exactly a huge flaw or fault

[BigChief]

We can make fun of Tottenham, but if we'd beaten them instead of drawn, we'd be top of the league right now.

Spurs did us a huge favour to even get this close to the title. It just wasn't meant to be. But we're racking up the karma points and payoff will come eventually.

[ChesterDave]

Impossible to know as I have already said here and others too.

It changes the approach to the other games. We might have picked a different starting 11 for Southampton, we might have picked up injuries, Citeh might have approach WHU different and won.

[vlahka]

We can make fun of Tottenham, but if we'd beaten them instead of drawn, we'd be top of the league right now.

[BigChief]

I’d resigned myself to runners up before kick off tbh but when I saw Villa was 2-0 up I dared to dream but it wasn’t to be. The CL is a must win for our side to get the recognition we so richly deserve. It’ll be tough without Thiago though.

I think we all bolstered ourselves for the inevitable, that's why we're not shot to pieces today. Well I'm not.

To me the biggest trophy we won out of the blue this season was Klopp staying until 2026. I could not be disappointed with how this season went after that, I literally have a smile on my face every time I think about it.

He will get us to 90+ points every season for four years. Bald Fraud will just not be able to keep up (or stick around long enough) to match that while staying sane. Even if Bald Fraud wins another league or two he will have yet again sacrificed the CL to do it. His legend will be severely challenged and he is already a fragile ego.

Roll on the next four years!

[Doc_Piptorious]

I agree to an extent but I do think that Conte is a good manager. Man United were going through a terrible spell last autumn and there was one half decent result in there. They won away to Spurs - and Ole was all confident then again. That was the result that prolonged Ole's pain but also where Spurs sacked Nuno Santo and hired Conte. Had United done that instead at the time then they would have done a lot better this season - might have even got 4th.

I think Spurs will struggle to play CL football and keep consistency in the league.

I also think that Conte is a good manager but is a bit of a spikey character - and I can't see him staying there long term. He will eventually fall out with Levy - it could be as early as this summer - and will eventually fock off.

They will probably hail the return of the Poch then at Spurs - not realising the fact that he won **** all there either!!!!

I'm not saying he is not a good manager, just that the proof of him being one is getting Spurs to where they finished in the league and that I think that is about as much as he will be able to wring out of that team.

Imo he will want to get to a club where he thinks he is in with a chance of actually winning something rather than the odd top 4 finishing position being the highlight of the entire season.

[frank the tank]

Think what you have seen is just that. A CL spot is the pinnacle of achievement for this Spurs team.

Next season? They are not going to better their league finishing position, they are not going to win the CL and well win eff all in the domestic cups. Go Spurs.

More chance of the Red mancs being back in a CL slot than Spurs doing it back to back imo.

I agree to an extent but I do think that Conte is a good manager. Man United were going through a terrible spell last autumn and there was one half decent result in there. They won away to Spurs - and Ole was all confident then again. That was the result that prolonged Ole's pain but also where Spurs sacked Nuno Santo and hired Conte. Had United done that instead at the time then they would have done a lot better this season - might have even got 4th.

I think Spurs will struggle to play CL football and keep consistency in the league.

I also think that Conte is a good manager but is a bit of a spikey character - and I can't see him staying there long term. He will eventually fall out with Levy - it could be as early as this summer - and will eventually fock off.

They will probably hail the return of the Poch then at Spurs - not realising the fact that he won **** all there either!!!!

[Doc_Piptorious]

Diaz with 2 more trophies in 4 and a bit months than Kane has won in his entire career. Congrats to them on getting 4th, but werent they supposed to be contenders. Wait until Conte does well and then ****s of to Real/PSG/Barca/Bayern.

And Utd. As far back as we were under Hodgson. Almost an irrelevance.

Think what you have seen is just that. A CL spot is the pinnacle of achievement for this Spurs team.

Next season? They are not going to better their league finishing position, they are not going to win the CL and well win eff all in the domestic cups. Go Spurs.

More chance of the Red mancs being back in a CL slot than Spurs doing it back to back imo.

[Buzzo]

That was us years ago - our entire happiness was based around any United failure.

The biggest insult I can say is that United are irrelevant - we beat them 5 nil after declaring at half time in OT. I don’t even remember how much we beat them by at home - 4 I think……. years ago I’d remember any point we took from them. All they’ve got is us not winning the league but their City “rivals” did

Spurs…..why bother - the are Spurs

Diaz with 2 more trophies in 4 and a bit months than Kane has won in his entire career. Congrats to them on getting 4th, but werent they supposed to be contenders. Wait until Conte does well and then ****s of to Real/PSG/Barca/Bayern.

And Utd. As far back as we were under Hodgson. Almost an irrelevance.