Ryan Gravenberch

[Doc_Piptorious]

Yeah probably but I don't think Gravenberch and MacAllister to be fair are that far behind to be honest. All comfortably in the team of the year at least.

Your post had me thinking of what the TOTY would be if the season ended now.

Would not have been saying this at the start of the year but I might have two, maybe three, Forest players in it.

[Pablo]

Best two players in the league by miles.

Yeah probably but I don't think Gravenberch and MacAllister to be fair are that far behind to be honest. All comfortably in the team of the year at least.

[Doc_Piptorious]

I'd venture without Grav in midfield, we would not be top. That's how important he's been to us this season. For all Mo's goals and assists, without the midfield lynchpin, I think Mo's contribution would fall away. And again, without Grav (and Macca) controlling the midfield, would Virg look as solid defensively as he does now? For me, Ryan is the standout this season. We look a different team without him, for all the good work Jones does, he's not quite in the same class in terms of reading the game and breaking play up.

Think he is defo equally as important as VVD and Salah this season.


On top of what you said, I think Grav's contributions in protecting our right flank often go unnoticed.

Watch many of the clips where people are gushing over a bit of skill by him, and instead of looking at the skill look at where he has just won the ball back.


He is getting through a huge amount of work on that flank covering for both Salah and TAA whilst at the same time protecting the entire line across the back four.

He is also the guy VVD and whoever is at LB tend to pass to the most when they need an outlet.

MacAllister has been very god at times this season but he has had a few dips in form, Grav seems to just stay at the same high level game in game out.

For me and in no particular order, Salah, Grav and VVD have all been crucial to our play all season and are proving to be the spine of the team.

Usually I would have Ali in there, and he has been great, but left him out as think Kelleher played in about a third of the league games so far this season.

Gakpo, MacAllister and Szobo would then be the three next most consistent guys for me.

[Scratch]

I'd venture without Grav in midfield, we would not be top. That's how important he's been to us this season. For all Mo's goals and assists, without the midfield lynchpin, I think Mo's contribution would fall away. And again, without Grav (and Macca) controlling the midfield, would Virg look as solid defensively as he does now? For me, Ryan is the standout this season. We look a different team without him, for all the good work Jones does, he's not quite in the same class in terms of reading the game and breaking play up.

[Buzzo]

Yeah, Virgil and Salah are clear.

Best two players in the league by miles.

[danperkins]

Having a genuinely outstanding season. Keep him fit and he looks like a rolls royce in there.

[rudedog]

Pips Mo?

Take Mo out the team and we aren't top of the league.

No disrespect to Grav as he's having a great season but let's not get carried away. He's nowhere near the best/most
influential player in the team.

I'd go further and suggest that from a midfield perspective he's behind MacAllister in terms of how important he his to the team.

Yeah, Virgil and Salah are clear.

[Mark79]

Yeah, Virgil and Salah are clear.

[spud_gun]

I think he pips Mo at this stage & neck & neck with Virg. Mo has been either an 8 or a 5 in several matches whereas Ryan has been a 7 or 8 for the majority. Both of them throw in the odd 9 too.

Pips Mo?

Take Mo out the team and we aren't top of the league.

No disrespect to Grav as he's having a great season but let's not get carried away. He's nowhere near the best/most
influential player in the team.

I'd go further and suggest that from a midfield perspective he's behind MacAllister in terms of how important he his to the team.

[SB]

Pushing Mo and Virgil for player of the season for me. All three should be Ballon D'or contenders. Worth north of £100m already.

I think he pips Mo at this stage & neck & neck with Virg. Mo has been either an 8 or a 5 in several matches whereas Ryan has been a 7 or 8 for the majority. Both of them throw in the odd 9 too.

[DerKrampus]

If Gravenberch were a year younger I reckon he would have been a shoe in for the Kopa Trophy, Golden Boy and FA YPotY awards.

[Buzzo]

Carra was saying yesterday that Grav is starting to remind him of Vieira, and that if we win the league he should be nominated for player of the season.

[Pablo]

Pushing Mo and Virgil for player of the season for me. All three should be Ballon D'or contenders. Worth north of £100m already.

[SB]

Easily a 9/10 performance today. He’s incredible

[Harv]

Never doubted him