Ryan Gravenberch

[Ryan Gravenberch]

Sorry lads.

vrolijk kerstfeest

[Exiled_red]

He's also a ****ing pussy like gakpo. Must be a Dutch thing.

VVD might want a word about that...

[Exiled_red]

I don't think he's bad, at present he feels like a player who has good moments rather than good games, there is something I can't quite put my finger on with him, I hope he just needs time to settle and learn what is required of him, also he is still young

[rudedog]

He’s 21, still a kid ffs

[BobTheCharmer]

He's also a ****ing pussy like gakpo. Must be a Dutch thing.

[Rafa Justice]

He's ****e

[BobTheCharmer]

Yeah sell him.to Saudi. Get Andre in.

[baitman]

Stealing a living

[Fosterbloke]

Imagine being 21 and having that written about you - we have a go at players and how they might not be good enough but imagine the pressure they're under. I was getting stoned in car parks at that age!

[rudedog]

Grav said that Klopp was clear from the outset that he was bringing him in to play as an 8.

[Liverpool]

I think Dom has the attributes to be the best 6, not that I want him there.

[Pablo]

Good! He has the potential to be world class as an 8 IMO.

Andre will be an interesting one if we do actually sign him. He averages over 90 passes per game, so if we do get him he will likely run things from that 6 position a bit like Thiago.

I think Andre, Sbozslai and Gravenberch is a very, very exciting midfield. With outstanding competition in MacAllister, Jones, Elliot, Endo, Bajcectic.

Quite the midfield overhaul!

[Shaggy]

Lijnders on Grav from today's presser...probably puts to bed any notion of us converting him to a 6. Reckon we'll be all in for Andre in January.

"It is the Ryan Gravenberch of Ajax that we see now. I'm not sure what happened at Bayern, you cannot judge that, but each player with confidence and without confidence is a different player. Each player with game-time or without game-time is a different player.

"That's how it is. That's why the Carabao Cup is really important for us as well because we know this and we feel this: a player who doesn't play doesn't get confident. You can do whatever you want on the training pitch, but in the end that's about it.

"Ryan in the final third, as an eight, is the one who slides, the one who still has overview, the one who has a first touch with his left or right to get out of a situation, out of proper pressure. He can keep the ball under high pressure and still find the passing option forward. He is a complete, complete eight with scoring and with attitude. It is the eight we searched for and the eight we got. We are thankful to our owners and our scouting and everyone who made it happen.

"It's nice he is Dutch as well!"

[Liverpool]

Iwobi on the last page, Palmer on here. Who knows what page 6 will bring

[John Barnes]

I subbed him on in fifa and the **** got injured within 30 seconds