Ryan Gravenberch

[danperkins]

He is a talented kid, a good ball carrier although most of the time it comes to nothing. Him getting better, learning or whatever isn't my concern, it's him hiding and being a bit of a fanny is a bit of a worry.

[The_weatherman]

He'll come good IMO, we've seen him have good matches, he's been unlucky with injuries, no preseason and few minutes over the last two years. He'll surprise a few.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Think BG's point regarding Nunez was that Nunez got another season to do better and we are seeing this season the result of getting another season to show what you can do once settled.

[frank the tank]

Sell the cunt

[BG1973]

Nunez will get more than ‘ another season ‘ IMO. The guy is the driving force & an example of the effort required to be successful. Sure he’s not the had his shooting boots on at times but you can never question his effort.

I meant like Nunez wasn't binned off after 1 season and is now a key player.

[SB]

I meant like Nunez wasn't binned off after 1 season and is now a key player.

Phew, glad to admit I got that wrong

[SB]

Think BG's point regarding Nunez was that Nunez got another season to do better and we are seeing this season the result of getting another season to show what you can do once settled.

I stand corrected

[Doc_Piptorious]

It's ok SB, we know it takes you a bit longer to twig what is being said to you because of, well you know....your condition.

[BG1973]

Phew, glad to admit I got that wrong

Ha, my post was open to interpretation so you can't take all the blame. Most, but not all

[SB]

It's ok SB, we know it takes you a bit longer to twig what is being said to you because of, well you know....your condition.

Ha, my post was open to interpretation so you can't take all the blame. Most, but not all

Yes it was & no I won’t

[BobTheCharmer]

Think BG's point regarding Nunez was that Nunez got another season to do better and we are seeing this season the result of getting another season to show what you can do once settled.

Nunez scored loads before he joined us. Looked promising last season because his effort is always flat out 100%. Grav doesn't come off the back of anything good. He's such a ****ing pussy. A new manager will bring in new players, he's very much at risk of being moved on.

[red g]

Nunez scored loads before he joined us. Looked promising last season because his effort is always flat out 100%. Grav doesn't come off the back of anything good. He's such a ****ing pussy. A new manager will bring in new players, he's very much at risk of being moved on.

I wouldn't mind this being my not good trophy cabinet/acheivements

Ajax

Eredivisie: 2018–19, 2020–21, 2021–22[31]
KNVB Cup: 2018–19, 2020–21[32]
Bayern Munich

Bundesliga: 2022–23[33]
DFL-Supercup: 2022[34]

Netherlands U17

UEFA European Under-17 Championship: 2018[31]
Individual

Ajax Talent of the Future (Abdelhak Nouri Award): 2018[36]
Ajax Talent of the Year (Marco van Basten Award): 2021[37]
Eredivisie Talent of the Year: 2020–21[38]
Johan Cruyff Trophy: 2020–21[39]
Eredivisie Player of the Month: March 2021[40]
Eredivisie Talent of the Month: March 2022[41]
Eredivisie Team of the Month: March 2022[42]

[baitman]

Signed for bm in june 22 for 18m. Played 25 times.

They then sold him to LFC in sept 23 for 40m.

I dont think bm get rid of classy talent on a whim.

[Fivex]

Either way deserves a bit more time imo. Same thinking would have sold Jones to Villa or someone a couple seasons back.

[baitman]

Either way deserves a bit more time imo. Same thinking would have sold Jones to Villa or someone a couple seasons back.

I get what you're saying but as a home grown Jones hasn't cost us anything really.
There were many times it looked like he needed a loan to get more game time and improve but not at the expense of the first team. It may be that squad injuries have meant we had to stick with him and it seems to have eventually paid off well.
To pay 40m for someone who is scared of his own shadow and doesn't have the inner man strength seems like we've bought a dud.