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    Hope we spank them in the Europa

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      Originally posted by Norbs View Post
      Hope we spank them in the Europa
      I hope Moyes spanks them in the Euros, then we spank West Ham.
      "We oil the jaws of the war machine and feed it with our babies."

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        Originally posted by Norbs View Post
        Hope we spank them in the Europa
        Originally posted by DerKrampus View Post
        I hope Moyes spanks them in the Euros, then we spank West Ham.
        All this talk of spanking has got me hankering for a trip down to Westminster... I need to lie down

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          Originally posted by frank the tank View Post
          Rafa is free
          That's because he's not very good these days.
          "We oil the jaws of the war machine and feed it with our babies."

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            All aboard the Amorim train….

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              [ame]https://twitter.com/TimesSport/status/1773726809676292194[/ame]
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                Inside the mind of The Special One - Mk II: Europe's most-wanted manager Ruben Amorim is now Liverpool's No 1 choice to replace Jurgen Klopp... and he loves trash-talking just like his idol Jose Mourinho
                • Ruben Amorim is the new favourite to become Liverpool's next manager
                • The 39-year-old has led Sporting to one Portuguese league title
                • Xabi Alonso appears to be out the race as he is committed to Bayer Leverkusen

                By LEWIS STEELE
                PUBLISHED: 12:00, 29 March 2024 | UPDATED: 14:42, 29 March 2024

                Madness.

                That was the word that filled the conversations and the back pages when Sporting Clube De Portugal announced they were taking a risk on a young coach from Braga, only four years ago.

                Why had the capital club, one of Portugal's Big Three along with Porto and Lisbon rivals Benfica, paid more than €10million in compensation, at the time the third-highest fee ever paid for a manager, for a 35-year-old with less than six months of top-level experience? Welcome to the fast lane, Ruben Amorim.

                Back then, the outrage was led by Portuguese football icon Luis Figo, who acknowledged that the Jose Alvalade Stadium had often been a graveyard for managers and dubbed the decision to hire rookie Amorim as 'loucura'.

                Four years on, the only madness around Amorim is that he is not yet at one of Europe's Continental giants. He will be soon.

                He has scored high on data tests led by Liverpool and will almost certainly get invited to interview for the soon-to-be vacant manager's job.

                In a recruitment process aided by head of research Will Spearman, a former Harvard physics PHD student, Amorim will have excelled on expected goals metrics (xG) and data shows he is overperforming with a limited budget compared to Benfica and Porto.

                His style is different to Jurgen Klopp's but fits the match in their desire for an exciting, attacking philosophy. Mail Sport understands the Reds have had scouts at several Sporting matches this year.

                After Liverpool conceded defeat on hiring Xabi Alonso on Thursday afternoon - internally, it appears the Reds never had any confidence they could lure him out of Bayer Leverkusen this summer - it has catapulted Amorim to becoming the frontrunner for the Anfield hotseat.

                But Liverpool are not the only team keen on Amorim. Bayern Munich need to replace Thomas Tuchel, plus Xavi is departing Barcelona. Chelsea and Manchester United would be in the market if their current managers were to leave.

                In a fascinating continent-wide scrap for new managers, whoever does hire Amorim will have to pay a hefty compensation fee which Portuguese sources tell Mail Sport would be a world-record figure for a coach. So… what is so special about the new special one?

                Amorim was asked if Manchester City boss Pep Guardiola was his reference point and, while he did say the Catalan was the best current coach in the world, he answered by saying: 'My reference has always been Mourinho.'

                He attended a coaching course at the Faculty of Human Kinetics, University of Lisbon which had sessions led by Mourinho alongside Antonio Veloso, who won seven league titles with Benfica in the 1980s.

                The pair stayed in touch, though the relationship is said to have evolved away from a master-and-apprentice hierarchy. When Amorim's Sporting knocked Arsenal out of the Europa League in 2023, his compatriot was quick to WhatsApp him a congratulatory message.

                'The old and the new Mourinho are still in the competition,' joked the then-Roma boss. When quizzed on the pair's similarities, Amorim said of his idol: 'Mourinho is one of a kind. There won't be another Mourinho. Mourinho is unique.'

                Those comments got the senses tingling with Chelsea fans who are still not sold on Mauricio Pochettino. Manchester United would probably be keen if the new owners were to part company with Ten Hag. But he is now the No 1 contender to replace Jurgen Klopp at Liverpool.

                Everyone who knows Amorim and his journey well, from former colleagues to Portuguese football experts, cite his unique tactics and motivational speeches. But above all, they talk about his personality.

                'The best word to describe Ruben is genuine,' says one former colleague who asked to remain anonymous as he works for another club. 'He values relationships, makes everyone in the building feel heard from the team captain to office staff - it creates a winning mentality.

                'He is loud but never aggressive or rude. He is a leader and makes everyone feel like they are working with him, not below him. But his best (trait) is communicating, making everyone feel united and trusted.'

                There is a social media page dedicated as a countdown to Amorim's next press conference. Like his idol Jose Mourinho, Amorim thinks that matches do not start when the two teams walk on to the pitch but instead in his news briefings, when he is assertive with his words.

                Some have described him as a 'master trash-talker' to try to get one up on his opposite number the day before games, but players are said to tune in and hang on his every word. His words might wind up rivals but they inspire Sporting's stars.

                'He's a brilliant communicator,' says Tom Kundert, a Portuguese football expert who has written two books and runs the website PortuGOAL. 'He's very open in press conferences, happy to respond to all questions - even the stupid ones - with an informative answer.

                'And he also retains a remarkably jovial demeanour, even when the pressure is on. He's one of these coaches who fosters a superb spirit among the whole squad, and that is no doubt the fruit of his communicative approach.

                'In five years as a coach, I cannot remember him ever criticising any of his players in public and I cannot recall one news story of an unhappy player. When things do go wrong for Sporting, which has not happened much under Amorim, he shifts all the focus on himself.

                'He will say things like, "We lost because Sporting have a coach who is still inexperienced and is learning the trade and who got it wrong today". Overall, he has a very affable personality and generally does a great job at swerving any controversies or spats with rival managers.'

                Sources in Lisbon have suggested Amorim loves life at Sporting and the offer would have to be 'perfect' to tempt him to move abroad, after already holding talks with Tottenham when Antonio Conte departed in spring 2023.

                'I've seen many coaches move to other leagues and not be happier,' he said in an interview with Diario de Noticias last summer. 'I want to value what I have. I've had contacts with other clubs, Sporting knows, but I always wanted to stay because I like being here.

                'If I ever have to leave here, either because I was pushed out with white handkerchiefs, or because I went to another club, it will happen. But being here doing my part, I won't be opening the door and leaving it ajar, because I think Sporting deserves respect.'

                Interestingly, Amorim's management career got off to a significant false start. After a playing career that involved a decade at Benfica and 14 Portugal caps, he began his second life of coaching at lower-league Lisbon club Casa Pia.

                But Amorim did not have the necessary coaching badges so was briefly suspended from management and forced to resign. Casa Pia were docked six points, though they still gained promotion that season, a testament to the foundations laid by their rookie, unlicenced coach.

                People close to Amorim suggest that he was furious at that and nearly gave up the gig altogether, but quickly calmed down and set in motion a trail of events that has led him to becoming one of Europe's most wanted, via Braga's B team and then their senior side.

                Amorim's greatest achievement in management was leading Sporting to their first league title in 19 years in 2021 and the club are on course for another triumph this season, one point clear of bitter rivals Benfica with a game in hand, and seven clear of Porto.

                'He proved the doubters wrong by making Sporting a recognisable force again,' says Zach Lowy, a European football expert. 'They had been also-rans for the entire century, so to end the Porto and Benfica duopoly and win their first title in 19 years, it's massive.'

                The 39-year-old has seen plenty of star players depart Sporting during his time there - including Manchester City's Matheus Nunes, Fulham's Joao Palhinha and Tottenham's Pedro Porro - but has constantly rebuilt a winning team.

                Amorim deploys a 3-4-3 system and is said to be stubborn - in a good way - about his tactical approach, never moving away from what he views as the right way to play football. 'He is married to the 3-4-3,' adds Kundert.

                'It is interesting that it is viewed by some as a somewhat defensive formation, with the wing-backs often sitting back to form a five-man defence, and in the title-winning season Sporting's triumph was certainly built on a watertight defence.

                'It has slight nuances in the attacking third, but he will never abdicate from the three-at-the-back system. The wing-backs are often extremely attack-minded, especially Pedro Porro on the right who was a fundamental part of Sporting's offensive game plan under Amorim.

                'But it can also be an extremely offensive system, as has been the case this season. Sporting have scored goals galore this season - more than 100 so far - and in the league they have netted more goals at this stage of the season than any Sporting team going back 50 years.'

                Wherever he goes, Amorim would likely demand his coaching team follows. One, 29-year-old Carlos Fernandes, is described as 'the Mourinho to Amorim's Bobby Robson'. After winning the title, he was winged by all of his staffing team in his post-match press conference.

                Amorim is definitely admired by Liverpool, alongside Roberto De Zerbi. First, though, there is a title to be won at Sporting, with a Lisbon derby next weekend. He might not be as outspoken as Mourinho, but it feels like the Special One 2.0 is heading for Europe's elite.

                https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-1-choice.html
                Last edited by marcus50bucks; 29-03-24, 04:53 PM.

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                  Edit - article posted above

                  [ame]https://twitter.com/LewisSteele_/status/1773701315626983868[/ame]
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                    Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
                    Alonso seems like a very clever guy and I have no doubt hrs weighing up all aspects before making his decision. He’s still very young and feasibly has 15+ years of management ahead of him

                    Right now he has never managed in the CL and clearly they are going to qualify so he can test himself there as well. I admire his loyalty and his sticking to his plan. He had suggested that he’d like to manage all his ex clubs and the Madrid job will be available next summer and perhaps even City if he was tempted to go that way.

                    Personally, I don’t think the coming in after Klopp bothers him much but that’s just my opinion. Now we need to find the next best fit and go from there


                    Lets see how Alonso gets on next season with Lever, could possibly do a De Zerbi. Lets be honest, no matter who we get, we are on to a loser after Klopp.

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                      FFS, If we get a Mourinho style gob****e I'm ****ing done.

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                        Originally posted by danperkins View Post


                        Lets see how Alonso gets on next season with Lever, could possibly do a De Zerbi. Lets be honest, no matter who we get, we are on to a loser after Klopp.
                        A bit pessimistic! Let’s see, us football fans are quite fickle!

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                          I for one am pleased Alonso is staying put. Not because I don't want him at Anfield. Opposite in fact.

                          But it's great to see someone sticking a couple of fingers up at the big boys and ploughing his own furrow. It doesn't happen enough and I for one am all for it.


                          * now watch him go to Madrid next year..
                          Oh I don't know.

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                            Teams change, players and managers come and go but we still carry on. How many teams have thought we’re done when someone leaves but they just carry on succeeding. Klopp has been amazing for us and will be difficult to replace but it’s not an impossible job. We might get someone even better who wants to stay for 10+ years and gives us something even more special.

                            We’ve had it before ourselves so why not again. We have everything set up for success. A good balanced squad with experience and youth who have great versatility to play how the new manager sees fit. The behind the scenes set up is coming together again with Edwards back. And a very stable well run happy club in general.

                            That article about Amorim sounded very encouraging. Who ever it is let’s back them and give them time and I’m sure we’ll carry on winning. Everything about this club now is set for long term success. Let’s enjoy it because we’ve been on the brink not long ago and know how bad it can be.

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                              Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                              So you've never heard of him therefore nothing one else knows anything about him.

                              There have been countless articles analysing the candidates.
                              One of the countless articles is updated on the BBC

                              Next Liverpool manager: Ranking Ruben Amorim, Thomas Tuchel, Roberto de Zerbi and more - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68695428
                              Oh I don't know.

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                                Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
                                Arne Slot I expect
                                That's him, thank you.
                                Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."


                                Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.

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