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    #16
    Originally posted by dww
    He gives the ball away much further up the pitch these days.
    That's not doing Luis any favours, that kind of argument.
    I'm playing all the right notes. Not necessarily in the right order. I'll give you that, sunshine.

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      #17
      I'd certainly keep him in the squad but Marky has a point. Garcia is the most frustrating player i've ever come across. How anyone can give the ball away so many times from 10 yards is beyond me.

      That said, for his sheer moments of magic alone, i'd keep him. He is a 'supersub' for me. Although at the moment, with our lack of quality in wide areas, i'd start him, especially at Anfield.

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        #18
        I don't get to see him live as in going to every home/away game.

        I can understand why people would get frustrated with him however he is a great player to have for the big games.
        2007 Est1892 'Challenge Lawro' Champion

        I don't know what your problem is but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce

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          #19
          [QUOTE=dww]He gives the ball away much further up the pitch these days. QUOTE]

          Is that an improvement?

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            #20
            Originally posted by mersey86
            That's not doing Luis any favours, that kind of argument.


            Fair enough but that's not exactly what I mean. Any creative player will give the ball away trying things which is what Luis does. It is only a bad thing if you give it away in dangerous areas - all players give the ball away sometimes. For me his ratio of ball loss to chance creation is pretty good. Gerrard and Xabi have been far worse offenders this season (although Gerrard has improved a lot in this regard in the last three matches).
            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
            -- William Blake

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              #21
              Originally posted by Marky18
              Fair enough, you're a big fan of Luis, i used to be, in his first season i was very close to getting his name on the home top, i'm glad i didn't, just caught on last season that this lad isn't good enough for us.
              Thought he was just taking time to settle in to the English style of play but no he' still giving the ball away as much now as when he first arrived, still wasting glorious chances, still trying the impossible, still pansying about and just generally being a fcuking liability.
              You have to accept Garcia for what he is; a luxury. To say he is not good enough is beyond foolish, he was probably our most important player of the 04/05 CL campaign and has repaid his transfer for that alone. Plus, and I know it is a Luis Garcia cliche, he scores important goals all the time

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                #22
                Considering we have **** all in the creative department compared to the other big teams, only a fecktard would want to get rid of Luis.
                Like blood on iron

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                  #23
                  Garcia is one of the few that can provide genuine inspiration in our team - letting him go would reinforce the perspiration over inspiration rule that many go on about.
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                    #24
                    I love Luis and would not want to sell him. Scoring against Chelsea is enough for me, but he gives too much to the games to be trashing him. And we need him for our European games.

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                      #25
                      He has to play.

                      Aside from Gerrard he's the only other player we've got who can create something out of nothing.

                      If it's a choice of Zenden/Pennant or Garcia it's Luis everytime.

                      Admittedly he's much more effective in Europe than the league. Then that could be said of quite a few other players too.
                      I hate Polanski

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by dww


                        Fair enough but that's not exactly what I mean. Any creative player will give the ball away trying things which is what Luis does. It is only a bad thing if you give it away in dangerous areas - all players give the ball away sometimes. For me his ratio of ball loss to chance creation is pretty good. Gerrard and Xabi have been far worse offenders this season (although Gerrard has improved a lot in this regard in the last three matches).
                        Yes, I understood your meaning, and its a fair point. It just read funny without the elaboration.
                        I'm playing all the right notes. Not necessarily in the right order. I'll give you that, sunshine.

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                          #27
                          I'd just like to know if he really does drink sangria...
                          Just when I discovered the meaning of life, they changed it

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                            #28
                            I just want to marry him...
                            RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFAEL BENITEZ!

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Groucho
                              I'd just like to know if he really does drink sangria...
                              He's tea total apparently, but it doesn't quite have the same ring to it I suppose
                              Like blood on iron

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Red_Polo
                                He's tea total apparently,
                                I'm coffee total & teetotal! Sorry, couldn't resist.
                                http://www.retroreds.co.uk/

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