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    #61
    Originally posted by Red_Polo View Post
    How the **** am I comparing them? Are you completely retarded? You said "I'll always judge a striker on the goals he scores", so I said you must've thought Dalglish was **** - I'm trying to illustrate the point that goals are not the only thing to judge a player by, or is that too ****ing difficult for you to get into your turdbox of a head? ****ting Christ, I give up.
    1) why would I think Dalglish's goals scoring record is ****e??
    2) i said i think bellamy's record isn't great and you've used someone whose record IS great to illustrate your "point" - how does that make ME retarded??
    Last edited by carheex; 12-12-06, 06:31 PM.

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      #62
      Oi, let's keep debating the points and not make it personal, thanks.
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        #63
        Originally posted by carheex View Post
        1) why would I think Dalglish's goals scoring record is ****e??
        2) i said i think bellamy's record isn't great and you've used someone whose record IS great to illustrate your "point" - how does that make ME retarded??
        3) if i need to go on, then you're more stupid then you make out and there's clearly no hope for you.
        I thought we were on letters now rather than numbers, to order your bullet points.
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          #64
          ???

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            #65
            Originally posted by carheex View Post
            ???
            a), b), c) instead of 1,2,3. Just a recent convention I'd noticed, very observant me
            Originally posted by Gordon Brown
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            "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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              #66
              Originally posted by carheex View Post
              1) why would I think Dalglish's goals scoring record is ****e??
              2) i said i think bellamy's record isn't great and you've used someone whose record IS great to illustrate your "point" - how does that make ME retarded??
              3) if i need to go on, then you're more stupid then you make out and there's clearly no hope for you.
              A goal in three games was Dalglish's goalscoring rate which is similar to Bellamy's. It's got nothing to do with Bellamy necessarily anyway. The whole point of it was to show how your method of judging a striker by goals alone is plain stupid. Dalglish's goalscoring record is nothing great, but he was undoubtedly a great player. Where does that leave your idea of judging strikers by the goals they score? Cisse > Dalglish obviously, I mean just look at their records :whatever:
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                #67
                Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                a), b), c) instead of 1,2,3. Just a recent convention I'd noticed, very observant me
                i'm more of a numbers man myself.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by lfc4ever View Post
                  Oi, let's keep debating the points and not make it personal, thanks.
                  Fair play. Just had a proper **** day and got frustrated. Leaving it alone now, got to go to work anyway.
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Red_Polo View Post
                    A goal in three games was Dalglish's goalscoring rate which is similar to Bellamy's. It's got nothing to do with Bellamy necessarily anyway. The whole point of it was to show how your method of judging a striker by goals alone is plain stupid. Dalglish's goalscoring record is nothing great, but he was undoubtedly a great player. Where does that leave your idea of judging strikers by the goals they score? Cisse > Dalglish obviously, I mean just look at their records :whatever:
                    Bellamy hasn't played through his mid-late 30s yet though to reduce his ratio in line with Sir Kenneth. Of course, if you want to be fair, you could use the FACT that Kenny had a ratio of better than 1-in-2 when he was bellendy's age......

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                      #70
                      Mr Benitez seemed to think that Peter Crouch was doing a reasonable job when he wasn't scoring. In fact, since he has been scoring he dropped him to the bench.

                      Still, I imagine Rafa doesn't know that football is a simple game.
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                      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                        #71
                        It will depend on if Rafa want to play with one or two strikers. If he signs someone like Alves then he will probably not need another striker even if Robbie doesn't get a new deal because that probably means 4-5-1.
                        Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                        According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                          Mr Benitez seemed to think that Peter Crouch was doing a reasonable job when he wasn't scoring. In fact, since he has been scoring he dropped him to the bench.

                          Still, I imagine Rafa doesn't know that football is a simple game.
                          Rafa doesn't know everything and doesn't always make the right decisions - that's why we're behind Portsmouth!

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                            #73
                            I agree. He's right about Fowler though.
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                            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                              #74
                              Originally posted by carheex View Post
                              Cisse always has been and always will be, several classes above bellamy. FFS
                              but Cisse had a 1 in 4 Ratio in the premiership?? 49 apperances 13 goals??!!

                              bellamy has had 143 games and scored and scored 57 goals since he moved to newcastle in 2001*

                              Now if goals per ratio is the ONLY maark of a striker how is Cisse several classes over Bellamy

                              * apologies for making use of stats to prove how poor yr argument is ....!!
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                                #75
                                Originally posted by carheex View Post
                                Cisse always has been and always will be, several classes above bellamy. FFS
                                Cisse is not of the same quality as Bellamy, Cisse would have missed Bellamys two goals against Wigan beacause he lakcs finesse, he would have probably blasted the pass Bellamy laid on to Kuyt into the side netting.
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