In a fecking nutshell....

[ElRobbie]

But he can't come up with ONE realistic target.
What's the ****ing point? I might as well say

"For ****s sake Rafa, buy us a 40 goal a season striker and a goal keeper who never lets a goal in"

It's not that easy.

We had a chance to buy the likes of Walcott and Aguero when they were available, but we couldn't afford them, ok they may not be the answer to our goalscoring problems but could make a massive difference to our attacking play, the point he is trying to make is that we should pay more and get players of this calibre, rather than spending £7m on the likes of Crouch or Pennant.

It's not easy I completely agree, but sometimes you have to take calculated risks, I'm sure Rafa would have liked these players if he had the money approved by the board, which I don't think he had.

[Kaip]

Rubbish.

So you would rather have Rooney instead of 2 strikers and 2 wingers? I'd love to seen your starting 11 and what about if Rooney got injured. Your talking out of your backside mate

[Parm]

Ronaldo £12m, Saha £12m, Rooney £27m = £51m.

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what's 9mill eh mate!!

[Craig_H]

But he can't come up with ONE realistic target.
What's the ****ing point? I might as well say

"For ****s sake Rafa, buy us a 40 goal a season striker and a goal keeper who never lets a goal in"

It's not that easy.

You're right, i havent given a current example of a goalscorer. And maybe you're right about there not being many out there. But, my overriding point also applies to wingers. If there werent any, why did we spend £7m on Pennant and £3m on Gonzalez, when, for me, playing Warnock at LB, Riise at LM and Gerrard on the right of midfield would've cost us nothing, and still been better?

The point is, IF the right option isnt available at the time, you dont fecking blow the kitty on the wrong players. Which we do. Time after time.

It's depressing as feck. And the following summer, we're back in the same boat - we 'cant afford class' - so yet again we buy average. And it goes on and on and on. Year after year.

[Guest]

So why not keep our money safe until something materialises?

By spending it and getting ****e, we're not doing ourselves any favours and we'll continue telling ourselves we cant afford the top class players, because we already spent our kitty on rubbish.

The reason there's so many holes, is because we sign rubbish who then get moved on, leaving the 'hole' to be filled.

If we spent what was necessary on top players, those holes would, one by one, be filled and for a long time. Sure it'd take a bit longer, but after a couple of years, we'd have a rather top drawer team.

This is Rafa's third year. 2 top class players per year = 6 top class players by now. And they dont HAVE to cost £20m each, look at Sissoko and Alonso.

But by backing them up with the Pennants and Gonzalezs of this world, we're going nowhere.

We have a good defence, 3 excellent midfielders and IMO one or two good, but not great strikers.

Say we have £30m to spend. Buy ONE brilliant striker and one brilliant winger. Then the following season, again use it on just TWO brilliant players.

Wouldnt take that long to turn what we have into a title-challenging side IMO.

I wouldn't class Rafa's recent signings as rubbish. Pennant is certainly not rubbish but he seems to lack character when the going gets tough. As for Gonzalez and Aurelio, we'll just have to wait and see. They need more games on the trot to make an impression.

[Craig_H]

How long do we wait? one season, two seasons?

LFC expects improvement every season or moves to work towards improvement.

Is the improvement occurring via the signing of players like Pennant for £7m?

Your way doesnt appear to be working. We havent tried my way.

[Kaip]

He's making a valid point, and backing it up with solid evidence, something you can't do, clearly.

BOLLOCKS

[Craig_H]

I wouldn't class Rafa's recent signings as rubbish. Pennant is certainly not rubbish but he seems to lack character when the going gets tough. As for Gonzalez and Aurelio, we'll just have to wait and see. They need more games on the trot to make an impression.

Can you see any of those three ever coming close to making the kind of impact a Ronaldo does? Or Robben?

I cant mate.

[Pepe]

The reason there's so many holes, is because we sign rubbish who then get moved on, leaving the 'hole' to be filled.

If we spent what was necessary on top players, those holes would, one by one, be filled and for a long time. Sure it'd take a bit longer, but after a couple of years, we'd have a rather top drawer team.

This is Rafa's third year. 2 top class players per year = 6 top class players by now. And they dont HAVE to cost £20m each, look at Sissoko and Alonso.

But by backing them up with the Pennants and Gonzalezs of this world, we're going nowhere.

We have a good defence, 3 excellent midfielders and IMO one or two good, but not great strikers.

Say we have £30m to spend. Buy ONE brilliant striker and one brilliant winger. Then the following season, again use it on just TWO brilliant players.

Wouldnt take that long to turn what we have into a title-challenging side IMO.

But spending a large sum on one player doesnt necessarily mean they will be successful. Look at Djbril Cisse as an example.

You are comparing Chelsea and the Scum to us, when they have as many failures (signings) as us. With Chelsea they have the money to throw more money at the problem. Whereas the scum still have some of older players still around to fill in the gaps.

My personal opinion, we would end up like Newcastle if went down the route of spending big on one player.

[Craig_H]

BOLLOCKS

A handshake smiley and the word bollocks...well, that's proved me conclusively wrong, i take it all back...

If Mourinho does walk, i fully expect Roman to be knocking on your door this summer...

[ElRobbie]

BOLLOCKS

Well why don't you contribute then with something useful or constructive instead of just spouting one word ****e.

It's a very good point and I think it factual that we waste money on second rate players, prove him wrong, why don't you, tell us all why its bollocks?

Or why don't you just increase your useless post count with more one worders. :whatever:

[Red Chilli]

Maybe the difference is we can't afford to blow all our cash on one player but Man Utd / Chelski can because if the player fails, they just go and buy another. They have more resources than us.
As for Arsenal examples, well their big signings in the transfer market come as a result of Wenger's genius to spot young players and then make them realise their potential giving them a strong squad for buttons.
So in summary, Man Utd/ Chelsea have more money and Arsenal have a manager who is a genius in the transfer market.

[Craig_H]

But spending a large sum on one player doesnt necessarily mean they will be successful. Look at Djbril Cisse as an example.

You are comparing Chelsea and the Scum to us, when they have as many failures (signings) as us. With Chelsea they have the money to throw more money at the problem. Whereas the scum still have some of older players still around to fill in the gaps.

My personal opinion, we would end up like Newcastle if went down the route of spending big on my player.

I was no Cisse fan, but even HE would be preferable to Pennant. Say what you will about Cisse, but he did make things happen from time to time. He had the tools to be an impact player and what's more, as much as he wasnt the answer, he did pop up with 19 goals. He isnt the answer, not by a long shot. But he's a damn sight better option than Pennant, not least because he wouldnt have required a FURTHER £7m being shelled out.

[Pepe]

Maybe the difference is we can't afford to blow all our cash on one player but Man Utd / Chelski can because if the player fails, they just go and buy another. They have more resources than us.
As for Arsenal examples, well their big signings in the transfer market come as a result of Wenger's genius to spot young players and then make them realise their potential giving them a strong squad for buttons.
So in summary, Man Utd/ Chelsea have more money and Arsenal have a manager who is a genius in the transfer market.

Precisely

[Neil Young]

Is the improvement occurring via the signing of players like Pennant for £7m?

Your way doesnt appear to be working. We havent tried my way.

Why do you think we haven't tried it?